Comments on: This is Pure Idiocy http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/2009/04/29/this-is-pure-idiocy/ Unbiased opinions from extremely biased people Thu, 29 Jul 2010 22:30:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: WildYams http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/2009/04/29/this-is-pure-idiocy/comment-page-1/#comment-7481 WildYams Thu, 30 Apr 2009 02:37:11 +0000 http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/?p=2554#comment-7481 I don't know if anyone pointed this out or not, but I think that Doc Rivers would have gotten to choose... Just kidding :D I don’t know if anyone pointed this out or not, but I think that Doc Rivers would have gotten to choose…

Just kidding :D

]]> By: Minor Correction http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/2009/04/29/this-is-pure-idiocy/comment-page-1/#comment-7447 Minor Correction Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:28:39 +0000 http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/?p=2554#comment-7447 I should add that it was definitely a flagrant foul... And THAT changes the calculus entirely. I should add that it was definitely a flagrant foul… And THAT changes the calculus entirely.

]]> By: The Corndogg http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/2009/04/29/this-is-pure-idiocy/comment-page-1/#comment-7444 The Corndogg Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:22:34 +0000 http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/?p=2554#comment-7444 The people on this site write thoughtful, interesting, poignant posts every day and nary a comment arrives. I,admitting I do not know the rule book, ask why such a decision was made and it lights up the HP sky. If those are the rules, then you stick with Miller. Sure. Or, you find refs that make tough, timely decisions - regardless of court/time/player, as they are paid to do - and make a call that a majority (thought not vast) thinks would have been the right call. Look, we (and by "we," I mean me) can go on discussing what might have been. I think if I player gets fouled hard enough that his GD teeth get busted out, then his coach should be allowed to judge whether or not he is capable of shooting. But, then again, I am not the "Big Brother" NBA rule book that is completely infallible and the written truth. So, eh, I messed up on this one. Sue me! At least you're reading the site and ready to rip me a new one if I'm not right. I appreciate that. Hell, I love that - that's why HP is here. Thank you. The people on this site write thoughtful, interesting, poignant posts every day and nary a comment arrives. I,admitting I do not know the rule book, ask why such a decision was made and it lights up the HP sky.

If those are the rules, then you stick with Miller. Sure. Or, you find refs that make tough, timely decisions – regardless of court/time/player, as they are paid to do – and make a call that a majority (thought not vast) thinks would have been the right call.

Look, we (and by “we,” I mean me) can go on discussing what might have been. I think if I player gets fouled hard enough that his GD teeth get busted out, then his coach should be allowed to judge whether or not he is capable of shooting. But, then again, I am not the “Big Brother” NBA rule book that is completely infallible and the written truth.

So, eh, I messed up on this one. Sue me! At least you’re reading the site and ready to rip me a new one if I’m not right. I appreciate that. Hell, I love that – that’s why HP is here. Thank you.

]]> By: Henry http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/2009/04/29/this-is-pure-idiocy/comment-page-1/#comment-7432 Henry Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:01:16 +0000 http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/?p=2554#comment-7432 "He’s Brad farking Miller, not Shaq (for what it’s worth, I would love to see if VDN would have kept Shaq in under similar circumstances - ah, fantasies!)." There is no coach in the NBA that would even have Shaq on the floor in this situation. This was a situation that called for long range and free throw shooters. (Miller is 3 of 4 beyond the arc in this series). “He’s Brad farking Miller, not Shaq (for what it’s worth, I would love to see if VDN would have kept Shaq in under similar circumstances – ah, fantasies!).”

There is no coach in the NBA that would even have Shaq on the floor in this situation. This was a situation that called for long range and free throw shooters. (Miller is 3 of 4 beyond the arc in this series).

]]> By: Miller's also a pretty good shooter http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/2009/04/29/this-is-pure-idiocy/comment-page-1/#comment-7425 Miller's also a pretty good shooter Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:27:02 +0000 http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/?p=2554#comment-7425 The rule is if Brad Miller can't shoot the free throws then the opposing coach gets to chose a player off the Bulls bench to shoot. I wouldn't take out a bleeding, 85 percent free throw shooter for a cold, 58 percent free throw shooter (Aaron Gray) and neither would VDN. Vinny might have used this 'respect' for Brad Miller's machoness as an excuse for keeping him in, but it was the only logical thing to do. The rule is if Brad Miller can’t shoot the free throws then the opposing coach gets to chose a player off the Bulls bench to shoot. I wouldn’t take out a bleeding, 85 percent free throw shooter for a cold, 58 percent free throw shooter (Aaron Gray) and neither would VDN.

Vinny might have used this ‘respect’ for Brad Miller’s machoness as an excuse for keeping him in, but it was the only logical thing to do.

]]> By: David Arnott http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/2009/04/29/this-is-pure-idiocy/comment-page-1/#comment-7424 David Arnott Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:23:49 +0000 http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/?p=2554#comment-7424 1 -- Doesn't Rivers get to choose the shooter if Miller comes out? 2 -- I think the bigger issue was calling a time out to put Miller in the game in the first place. The Celtics had their shooters on the floor for Pierce's shot with 10 seconds left, and VDN called time out just to sub in Miller and draw up a play, when they could have had a play ready for after Pierce's make, and brought the ball up and made Eddie House play defense. 1 — Doesn’t Rivers get to choose the shooter if Miller comes out?

2 — I think the bigger issue was calling a time out to put Miller in the game in the first place. The Celtics had their shooters on the floor for Pierce’s shot with 10 seconds left, and VDN called time out just to sub in Miller and draw up a play, when they could have had a play ready for after Pierce’s make, and brought the ball up and made Eddie House play defense.

]]> By: tough jooooze http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/2009/04/29/this-is-pure-idiocy/comment-page-1/#comment-7423 tough jooooze Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:18:11 +0000 http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/?p=2554#comment-7423 The opposing teams' coach gets to pick the replacment free throw shooter and Miller would not be able to re-enter the game if it went into a third OT. So that is why mille rwas left in. The opposing teams’ coach gets to pick the replacment free throw shooter and Miller would not be able to re-enter the game if it went into a third OT. So that is why mille rwas left in.

]]> By: Minor Correction http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/2009/04/29/this-is-pure-idiocy/comment-page-1/#comment-7420 Minor Correction Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:09:04 +0000 http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/?p=2554#comment-7420 I believe Doc would have got to pick the free throw shooter under NBA rules AND Miller would not have been able to come back and play if the game went to OT. Somehow I think Doc wouldn't have picked Ben Gordon or John Salmons... and might have gone with, oh, I dunno, Aaron ".576" Gray instead. The shooting coach picks is the NCAA rule - and one that makes no sense when you think about it. I believe Doc would have got to pick the free throw shooter under NBA rules AND Miller would not have been able to come back and play if the game went to OT. Somehow I think Doc wouldn’t have picked Ben Gordon or John Salmons… and might have gone with, oh, I dunno, Aaron “.576″ Gray instead.

The shooting coach picks is the NCAA rule – and one that makes no sense when you think about it.

]]> By: radja9697 http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/2009/04/29/this-is-pure-idiocy/comment-page-1/#comment-7415 radja9697 Wed, 29 Apr 2009 14:51:53 +0000 http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/?p=2554#comment-7415 Rivers would have picked the bulls replacement shooter had Miller been unable to take his shots. If the play was ruled a flagrant VDN would have been able to choose a replacement from the four other players on the court, and if it was ruled flagrant two-from any of his players on the bench. Rivers would have picked the bulls replacement shooter had Miller been unable to take his shots.

If the play was ruled a flagrant VDN would have been able to choose a replacement from the four other players on the court, and if it was ruled flagrant two-from any of his players on the bench.

]]> By: wiseolgoat http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/2009/04/29/this-is-pure-idiocy/comment-page-1/#comment-7413 wiseolgoat Wed, 29 Apr 2009 14:41:10 +0000 http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/?p=2554#comment-7413 someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that if VDN had sat Miller in that situation, Boston gets to pick the FT shooter. someone correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m pretty sure that if VDN had sat Miller in that situation, Boston gets to pick the FT shooter.

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