Comments on: Examining The Magic’s Overall Effort Versus Cleveland’s One Man Show http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/2009/05/26/examining-the-magics-overall-effort-versus-clevelands-one-man-show/ Unbiased opinions from extremely biased people Wed, 17 Mar 2010 17:39:55 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: yackity yack http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/2009/05/26/examining-the-magics-overall-effort-versus-clevelands-one-man-show/comment-page-1/#comment-11042 yackity yack Mon, 01 Jun 2009 19:18:18 +0000 http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/?p=2758#comment-11042 Great work on the charts. I totally understand the point you have made. Lebron is clearly having to do too much.. Orlando is playing great and I'd be interested to see the lakers #'s charted vs the magic. The only team I can think of that probably got more distributed production than the Magic was last years Celtics. Lebron needs a swing player to fill in at the 2-3-4 that can help him defend the best players and make plays from the weak side. Lebron, imo, can play any of the 2-3-4 so they just need a guy. He also needs a point guard that pushes the ball and can get everyone going without lebron taking on so much of the load. I love Mo williams and I think hes great in a roll as a small shooting guard next to Jkidd if they can pull that one. Delonte 6th man of the year? why not.. and maybe get him racheed to replace Illgauskis for a year and see what happens. Great work on the charts. I totally understand the point you have made. Lebron is clearly having to do too much..

Orlando is playing great and I’d be interested to see the lakers #’s charted vs the magic. The only team I can think of that probably got more distributed production than the Magic was last years Celtics.

Lebron needs a swing player to fill in at the 2-3-4 that can help him defend the best players and make plays from the weak side. Lebron, imo, can play any of the 2-3-4 so they just need a guy. He also needs a point guard that pushes the ball and can get everyone going without lebron taking on so much of the load. I love Mo williams and I think hes great in a roll as a small shooting guard next to Jkidd if they can pull that one. Delonte 6th man of the year? why not.. and maybe get him racheed to replace Illgauskis for a year and see what happens.

]]> By: coyster http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/2009/05/26/examining-the-magics-overall-effort-versus-clevelands-one-man-show/comment-page-1/#comment-10594 coyster Thu, 28 May 2009 12:00:35 +0000 http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/?p=2758#comment-10594 you are good man. this is really comprehensive. thanks!! you are good man. this is really comprehensive. thanks!!

]]> By: Aaron Barzilai http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/2009/05/26/examining-the-magics-overall-effort-versus-clevelands-one-man-show/comment-page-1/#comment-10541 Aaron Barzilai Wed, 27 May 2009 17:44:08 +0000 http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/?p=2758#comment-10541 Very nice. One minor thought abotu presentation, for future charts it might be nice to have players listed around the circle based on minutes played, with the max minutes at the top (12 o'clock), then 2nd at 11 o'clock, 3rd at 1 o'clock, 4th at 10 o'clock, ... That way the vertical dimension of location represents minute played, the higher you are on the circle the more you've played. Thanks, Aaron Very nice. One minor thought abotu presentation, for future charts it might be nice to have players listed around the circle based on minutes played, with the max minutes at the top (12 o’clock), then 2nd at 11 o’clock, 3rd at 1 o’clock, 4th at 10 o’clock, … That way the vertical dimension of location represents minute played, the higher you are on the circle the more you’ve played.

Thanks,
Aaron

]]> By: greggrant http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/2009/05/26/examining-the-magics-overall-effort-versus-clevelands-one-man-show/comment-page-1/#comment-10516 greggrant Wed, 27 May 2009 09:16:40 +0000 http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/?p=2758#comment-10516 Excellent insight to which players upped their production and how that affects their teams' performance. Just a little nitpicking here: at the comparison graph maybe some of the players are not paired correctly/by position (Turkoglu-James, Varejao-Lewis, Smith-Battie, Pietrus-Szczerbiak). However, the way LeBron is dominating compared to his teammates is just awful. Reminds me the years before this one. Shouldn't the Cavs supposed to be more like a 'team' this year? Wasn't that the main theme of the regular season for them? The panic man right now isn't Van Gundy, it's Mike Brown: what else should make you play almost excusively to your superduperstar without utilising the other players as well? Excellent insight to which players upped their production and how that affects their teams’ performance.
Just a little nitpicking here: at the comparison graph maybe some of the players are not paired correctly/by position (Turkoglu-James, Varejao-Lewis, Smith-Battie, Pietrus-Szczerbiak).
However, the way LeBron is dominating compared to his teammates is just awful. Reminds me the years before this one. Shouldn’t the Cavs supposed to be more like a ‘team’ this year? Wasn’t that the main theme of the regular season for them? The panic man right now isn’t Van Gundy, it’s Mike Brown: what else should make you play almost excusively to your superduperstar without utilising the other players as well?

]]> By: Ryan http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/2009/05/26/examining-the-magics-overall-effort-versus-clevelands-one-man-show/comment-page-1/#comment-10499 Ryan Wed, 27 May 2009 04:02:59 +0000 http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/?p=2758#comment-10499 SVG's decision to draw up the corner three for Shard was pure genious. If only Mike Brown was half the coach. SVG’s decision to draw up the corner three for Shard was pure genious. If only Mike Brown was half the coach.

]]> By: Leon http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/2009/05/26/examining-the-magics-overall-effort-versus-clevelands-one-man-show/comment-page-1/#comment-10490 Leon Tue, 26 May 2009 23:58:50 +0000 http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/?p=2758#comment-10490 The biggest issue is a.) Mo just not stepping up in the playoffs - he hasn't shot well for pretty much the entire playoffs, and b.) the Cavs bench never really was that good, where the Otis Smith should be commended for putting together a pretty solid bench. Boobie has been awful all season, Wally can't guard a rock, and Pavlovic's IQ is somewhere in the area of 15-20. Its quite possible LeBron James performed a minor miracle this regular season. The biggest issue is a.) Mo just not stepping up in the playoffs – he hasn’t shot well for pretty much the entire playoffs, and b.) the Cavs bench never really was that good, where the Otis Smith should be commended for putting together a pretty solid bench. Boobie has been awful all season, Wally can’t guard a rock, and Pavlovic’s IQ is somewhere in the area of 15-20.

Its quite possible LeBron James performed a minor miracle this regular season.

]]> By: MagicFanatic http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/2009/05/26/examining-the-magics-overall-effort-versus-clevelands-one-man-show/comment-page-1/#comment-10486 MagicFanatic Tue, 26 May 2009 22:31:51 +0000 http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/?p=2758#comment-10486 Hey...you got one of these slick charts for defense too..?:) Hey…you got one of these slick charts for defense too..?:)

]]> By: CJG http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/2009/05/26/examining-the-magics-overall-effort-versus-clevelands-one-man-show/comment-page-1/#comment-10476 CJG Tue, 26 May 2009 19:41:27 +0000 http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/?p=2758#comment-10476 I disagree that these are nice graphics. The scale used for Orlando is different than the scale used for Cleveland graphs. If you actually had used equal scaling one of two things would happen. If you had Cleveland on Orlando's smaller scale, Cleveland would be off the chart for at least LeBron. If its the other way around, then Orlando's efforts would look smaller than Cleveland's. That said, it would still be clear that LeBron is doing more work than he should. However, I think differentiated scaling make the other Cleveland role players appear worthless....rather than just slumping. I disagree that these are nice graphics. The scale used for Orlando is different than the scale used for Cleveland graphs. If you actually had used equal scaling one of two things would happen. If you had Cleveland on Orlando’s smaller scale, Cleveland would be off the chart for at least LeBron. If its the other way around, then Orlando’s efforts would look smaller than Cleveland’s.

That said, it would still be clear that LeBron is doing more work than he should. However, I think differentiated scaling make the other Cleveland role players appear worthless….rather than just slumping.

]]> By: Charles http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/2009/05/26/examining-the-magics-overall-effort-versus-clevelands-one-man-show/comment-page-1/#comment-10470 Charles Tue, 26 May 2009 16:56:20 +0000 http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/?p=2758#comment-10470 Really like these charts. This does make a lot of sense. Thanks for posting. http://therookiecontract.com/ Really like these charts. This does make a lot of sense. Thanks for posting.

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]]> By: bandwagonknick http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/2009/05/26/examining-the-magics-overall-effort-versus-clevelands-one-man-show/comment-page-1/#comment-10468 bandwagonknick Tue, 26 May 2009 16:18:01 +0000 http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/?p=2758#comment-10468 Great stuff Matt, as usual. Surprised me how circular the Cavs' regular season chart was, even though I knew they were a pretty balanced team most of the year. Great stuff Matt, as usual. Surprised me how circular the Cavs’ regular season chart was, even though I knew they were a pretty balanced team most of the year.

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