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	<title>Comments on: Nichols and Dime: Rating Shooting Abilities</title>
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		<title>By: Jon Nichols</title>
		<link>http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/2009/09/28/nichols-and-dime-rating-shooting-abilities/comment-page-1/#comment-23154</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Nichols</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 15:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The foul efficiency is calculated like the efficiency for all other shots.  It&#039;s points scored divided by 2*total attempts.  So for three-pointers, it&#039;s (3*3PM)/(2*3PA).  For two-pointers, its just FGM/FGA.  

For free throws, we have to estimate total attempts as if they were possessions.  We can&#039;t just do FTM/FTA.  The general rule people use to guess possessions used by free throw attempts is (2*.44*FTA).  It&#039;s .44 and not .5 (which at first is what you&#039;d assume because you get two free throws per trip to the line usually) because of And-1&#039;s.  So to calculate TS% for free throws, it is FTM/(2*.44*FTA).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The foul efficiency is calculated like the efficiency for all other shots.  It&#8217;s points scored divided by 2*total attempts.  So for three-pointers, it&#8217;s (3*3PM)/(2*3PA).  For two-pointers, its just FGM/FGA.  </p>
<p>For free throws, we have to estimate total attempts as if they were possessions.  We can&#8217;t just do FTM/FTA.  The general rule people use to guess possessions used by free throw attempts is (2*.44*FTA).  It&#8217;s .44 and not .5 (which at first is what you&#8217;d assume because you get two free throws per trip to the line usually) because of And-1&#8242;s.  So to calculate TS% for free throws, it is FTM/(2*.44*FTA).</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 22:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was bored, and went ahead and exported this on my own excel. Here&#039;s an interesting tidbit. I added a &quot;Sum&quot; column that totals these ratings in a rudimentary fashion, and got this:

Nash	PHX	PG	295
CalderonTOR	PG	287
Durant	OKC	SF	287
Paul	NOH	PG	285
R.Allen	BOS	SG	281

However, since 3 pointers need to be weighed higher, (did a modifier that multiplied the three point efficiency by 1.5), a different result came.

Nash	PHX	PG	331
CalderonTOR	PG	323
R.Allen	BOS	SG	323
Durant	OKC	SF	318.5
M.WilliamsCLE	PG	307.5

I guess I don&#039;t understand the foul efficiency as much, since I&#039;m trying to figure out how to correlate ft shooting % into it. What exactly is the foul efficieny rating?

Thanks for the numbers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was bored, and went ahead and exported this on my own excel. Here&#8217;s an interesting tidbit. I added a &#8220;Sum&#8221; column that totals these ratings in a rudimentary fashion, and got this:</p>
<p>Nash	PHX	PG	295<br />
CalderonTOR	PG	287<br />
Durant	OKC	SF	287<br />
Paul	NOH	PG	285<br />
R.Allen	BOS	SG	281</p>
<p>However, since 3 pointers need to be weighed higher, (did a modifier that multiplied the three point efficiency by 1.5), a different result came.</p>
<p>Nash	PHX	PG	331<br />
CalderonTOR	PG	323<br />
R.Allen	BOS	SG	323<br />
Durant	OKC	SF	318.5<br />
M.WilliamsCLE	PG	307.5</p>
<p>I guess I don&#8217;t understand the foul efficiency as much, since I&#8217;m trying to figure out how to correlate ft shooting % into it. What exactly is the foul efficieny rating?</p>
<p>Thanks for the numbers!</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Nichols</title>
		<link>http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/2009/09/28/nichols-and-dime-rating-shooting-abilities/comment-page-1/#comment-22688</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Nichols</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, with Google Docs, I haven&#039;t yet figured out a way to add sorting functionality.  

Running the same numbers on teams is very doable and interesting.  I&#039;ll keep that in mind for the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, with Google Docs, I haven&#8217;t yet figured out a way to add sorting functionality.  </p>
<p>Running the same numbers on teams is very doable and interesting.  I&#8217;ll keep that in mind for the future.</p>
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		<title>By: thomas whigham</title>
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		<dc:creator>thomas whigham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please explain how to sort the data in ascending order based on a shot range (if possible)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please explain how to sort the data in ascending order based on a shot range (if possible)</p>
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		<title>By: Garron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love the post. The data&#039;s really good, and the fact that you can do it for different type&#039;s of shots is excellent. Is there a way you can sort the data in order? I can&#039;t even find a way to do it in excel.

A challenge that you can do, for seeing how to improve a team (or how to defend a team better) is to create the same rankings but for teams (as well as for teams based on position for example, who has the total best midrange centers etc).

Though no teams release their data, I bet there would be certain teams who do the same sort of data with rebounding (best rebounding rates for short, long or tipped rebounds etc). That would be great, but unfortunately is not data that the public can work for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love the post. The data&#8217;s really good, and the fact that you can do it for different type&#8217;s of shots is excellent. Is there a way you can sort the data in order? I can&#8217;t even find a way to do it in excel.</p>
<p>A challenge that you can do, for seeing how to improve a team (or how to defend a team better) is to create the same rankings but for teams (as well as for teams based on position for example, who has the total best midrange centers etc).</p>
<p>Though no teams release their data, I bet there would be certain teams who do the same sort of data with rebounding (best rebounding rates for short, long or tipped rebounds etc). That would be great, but unfortunately is not data that the public can work for.</p>
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