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	<title>Comments on: Lemon Face/Lion Face 11.13.09: Divergent Edition</title>
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		<title>By: LeafHawk</title>
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		<dc:creator>LeafHawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 19:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bynum is very close to fulfilling his potential. It&#039;s all about consistency for both of these guys. Bynum had none and Oden had a very mundane consistency for a while. Now, Bynum looks like he could be that all-star caliber player since there are so few real centers in the NBA anymore. 

Yams, I&#039;m betting you haven&#039;t been watching the Blazers much the last few games, which is understandable. Granted, at least half of Oden&#039;s points have come from dunks. But that doesn&#039;t mean he&#039;s not developing an all-around offensive post game. He&#039;s making quick spin moves and getting layups in motion. It seems like he&#039;s getting better every day at using the glass to his advantage. He&#039;s even started to show a ten foot jumper, of all the ridiculous things! Of course he&#039;s only done that a couple times this season, so I wouldn&#039;t consider it part of his arsenal just yet. 

I think Joel Przybilla is great. He&#039;s the best backup center in the NBA, and it&#039;s not close. But he&#039;s not close to the same level of player Greg Oden can become. Oden&#039;s already better both on offense and defense. 

The fouls have been an issue, but it appears to be getting better also. He&#039;s not making stupid swings at shots he can&#039;t get to and he&#039;s also establishing position and staying vertical. He will not foul at the same rate he did last year once this season is finished. 

Right now, I&#039;d say Bynum is ahead of where Oden is at, but their ceilings are almost the same, with Oden&#039;s maybe being just a bit higher because he&#039;s a better defensive player than Bynum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bynum is very close to fulfilling his potential. It&#8217;s all about consistency for both of these guys. Bynum had none and Oden had a very mundane consistency for a while. Now, Bynum looks like he could be that all-star caliber player since there are so few real centers in the NBA anymore. </p>
<p>Yams, I&#8217;m betting you haven&#8217;t been watching the Blazers much the last few games, which is understandable. Granted, at least half of Oden&#8217;s points have come from dunks. But that doesn&#8217;t mean he&#8217;s not developing an all-around offensive post game. He&#8217;s making quick spin moves and getting layups in motion. It seems like he&#8217;s getting better every day at using the glass to his advantage. He&#8217;s even started to show a ten foot jumper, of all the ridiculous things! Of course he&#8217;s only done that a couple times this season, so I wouldn&#8217;t consider it part of his arsenal just yet. </p>
<p>I think Joel Przybilla is great. He&#8217;s the best backup center in the NBA, and it&#8217;s not close. But he&#8217;s not close to the same level of player Greg Oden can become. Oden&#8217;s already better both on offense and defense. </p>
<p>The fouls have been an issue, but it appears to be getting better also. He&#8217;s not making stupid swings at shots he can&#8217;t get to and he&#8217;s also establishing position and staying vertical. He will not foul at the same rate he did last year once this season is finished. </p>
<p>Right now, I&#8217;d say Bynum is ahead of where Oden is at, but their ceilings are almost the same, with Oden&#8217;s maybe being just a bit higher because he&#8217;s a better defensive player than Bynum.</p>
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		<title>By: WildYams</title>
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		<dc:creator>WildYams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad to see you&#039;ve finally accepted that Bynum&#039;s a good player (you knew I&#039;d have to post a comment here, didn&#039;t you?  lol).  He&#039;s still got work to do, but you&#039;re right that he&#039;s finally showing consistency and control this year, rather than just showing that in flashes in the past.  In fairness to him though, he&#039;d started to show this kind of play in each of the last two seasons, only to have it interrupted with his knee injuries.  I too look at his offensive game though and wonder why Dwight Howard can&#039;t play like that.  Howard would be even more ridiculous than he already is if he had any kind of offensive repertoire.

I&#039;m still not sold on Greg Oden though.  The last game notwithstanding, the dude needs to learn how to play defense without fouling.  Until the NBA goes to JVG&#039;s suggestion of unlimited fouls, Oden can only be so effective when he&#039;s playing just 20-25 minutes a game due to foul trouble.  Luckily for Portland they&#039;ve got a backup who&#039;s about as good as he is, so this flaw tends to get covered up a bit, but Oden&#039;s still got a ways to go.  He too needs to develop more moves on offense.  He&#039;s more in the Dwight Howard &quot;all I do is dunk&quot; category offensively.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad to see you&#8217;ve finally accepted that Bynum&#8217;s a good player (you knew I&#8217;d have to post a comment here, didn&#8217;t you?  lol).  He&#8217;s still got work to do, but you&#8217;re right that he&#8217;s finally showing consistency and control this year, rather than just showing that in flashes in the past.  In fairness to him though, he&#8217;d started to show this kind of play in each of the last two seasons, only to have it interrupted with his knee injuries.  I too look at his offensive game though and wonder why Dwight Howard can&#8217;t play like that.  Howard would be even more ridiculous than he already is if he had any kind of offensive repertoire.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still not sold on Greg Oden though.  The last game notwithstanding, the dude needs to learn how to play defense without fouling.  Until the NBA goes to JVG&#8217;s suggestion of unlimited fouls, Oden can only be so effective when he&#8217;s playing just 20-25 minutes a game due to foul trouble.  Luckily for Portland they&#8217;ve got a backup who&#8217;s about as good as he is, so this flaw tends to get covered up a bit, but Oden&#8217;s still got a ways to go.  He too needs to develop more moves on offense.  He&#8217;s more in the Dwight Howard &#8220;all I do is dunk&#8221; category offensively.</p>
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		<title>By: Vic De Zen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vic De Zen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love to see the positivity for Bynum and Oden. Those kids are going to be a fixture for the next decade+. Hopefully, no more injuries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love to see the positivity for Bynum and Oden. Those kids are going to be a fixture for the next decade+. Hopefully, no more injuries.</p>
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