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	<title>Comments on: Have Respect: He Was Legend</title>
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		<title>By: Mike in Memphis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike in Memphis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 02:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love love love this post, Zach. I remember mentioning this in a Daily Dime a while back that nobody does it alone.

People look at end results and think &quot;Kobe 3 rings, T-Mac 0 rings,&quot; but so much of what is thrown at T-Mac (not getting out of the first round, lack of success) is SO much the fact that his teammates were garbage and had nothing to do with him.

Replace Kobe with T-Mac on those Lakers teams, how many rings do they win? Out of the 3 rings, I think they take at least 1, maybe 2.

But more importantly, if you replace Kobe with T-Mac, I think Shaq stays in LA with T-Mac, who never really had an alpha dog personality, thus that new duo would have the chance for even more championships.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love love love this post, Zach. I remember mentioning this in a Daily Dime a while back that nobody does it alone.</p>
<p>People look at end results and think &#8220;Kobe 3 rings, T-Mac 0 rings,&#8221; but so much of what is thrown at T-Mac (not getting out of the first round, lack of success) is SO much the fact that his teammates were garbage and had nothing to do with him.</p>
<p>Replace Kobe with T-Mac on those Lakers teams, how many rings do they win? Out of the 3 rings, I think they take at least 1, maybe 2.</p>
<p>But more importantly, if you replace Kobe with T-Mac, I think Shaq stays in LA with T-Mac, who never really had an alpha dog personality, thus that new duo would have the chance for even more championships.</p>
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		<title>By: wb</title>
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		<dc:creator>wb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 04:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>T-Mac&#039;s career was derailed when he left Toronto. It&#039;s ridiculous to think what that team could have been.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>T-Mac&#8217;s career was derailed when he left Toronto. It&#8217;s ridiculous to think what that team could have been.</p>
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		<title>By: rellz</title>
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		<dc:creator>rellz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 11:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tmacs career would of been different had he had better talent around him. PEriod. IN ORL he was always by himself, nobody was there. KB was lucky to have a GM build around his talents (still is) TMac NEVER HAD THAT...NEVER...his 2nd best player in ORL was Daryl Armstrong....? mike miller...traded...grant hill....injured. Tmac never stood a chance. N people call him selfish...check his stats in the jazz 1st series 17 asts!!!! 28 pts!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tmacs career would of been different had he had better talent around him. PEriod. IN ORL he was always by himself, nobody was there. KB was lucky to have a GM build around his talents (still is) TMac NEVER HAD THAT&#8230;NEVER&#8230;his 2nd best player in ORL was Daryl Armstrong&#8230;.? mike miller&#8230;traded&#8230;grant hill&#8230;.injured. Tmac never stood a chance. N people call him selfish&#8230;check his stats in the jazz 1st series 17 asts!!!! 28 pts!!!</p>
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		<title>By: crase42</title>
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		<dc:creator>crase42</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kobe vs. Iverson
Kobe vs. TMac
Kobe vs. Wade
Kobe vs. Carter
Kobe vs. James

Who&#039;s next?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kobe vs. Iverson<br />
Kobe vs. TMac<br />
Kobe vs. Wade<br />
Kobe vs. Carter<br />
Kobe vs. James</p>
<p>Who&#8217;s next?</p>
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		<title>By: Isaac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Isaac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 11:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve always been a huge T-Mac fan.  His passing was something that always was underrated, people calling him a selfish player is just ludicrous.  

You also forget to mention that all of the teams he was part of were never favored in any playoff matchup due to lack of depth, and he got the short end of the stick on the series vs the Mavs.  

In FreeDarko&#039;s book they made mention of how often and how long he slept (he even used to nap during half-time at some games).  Following the birth of his daughter, his FG% took a massive hit.  I thought it was an interesting take on his decline, doubtful it&#039;s the cause.. but interesting nonetheless. 

Grant Hill, Penny Hardaway, and T-Mac are 3 guys (bad luck for Orlando fans) with insanely promising futures derailed by injuries.. Anytime players like these never reach their potential due to injuries, it&#039;s unfortunate for us all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always been a huge T-Mac fan.  His passing was something that always was underrated, people calling him a selfish player is just ludicrous.  </p>
<p>You also forget to mention that all of the teams he was part of were never favored in any playoff matchup due to lack of depth, and he got the short end of the stick on the series vs the Mavs.  </p>
<p>In FreeDarko&#8217;s book they made mention of how often and how long he slept (he even used to nap during half-time at some games).  Following the birth of his daughter, his FG% took a massive hit.  I thought it was an interesting take on his decline, doubtful it&#8217;s the cause.. but interesting nonetheless. </p>
<p>Grant Hill, Penny Hardaway, and T-Mac are 3 guys (bad luck for Orlando fans) with insanely promising futures derailed by injuries.. Anytime players like these never reach their potential due to injuries, it&#8217;s unfortunate for us all.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 02:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Swirsky&#039;s Soldier -

T-Mac didn&#039;t go to Orlando to be &quot;The Man&quot;!  He went to play 2nd banana to the best SF in the League at the time (Grant Hill).  He ended up _becoming_ The Man because there wasn&#039;t another scoring threat on that team his entire time there.  

Although I agree T-Mac doesn&#039;t pass the legend test, based on his first 6-7 years in the L, he was on track to become a legend (injuries, bad teammates and bad attitude pushed him way off that track).  If T-Mac had been able to play with a healthy All-Star teammate when he went to Orlando, especially a team-first, heady guy like Grant Hill, his whole career might have been different.  

Nobody points this out when talking about the great early 2000s swingmen, but Kobe elevated himself above other excellent guards like T-Mac, A.I., Vince and others partly because he was learning the league in an environment with some stellar team-first teammates (Horry, Derek Fisher, Bryon Scott) and pretty good coaches (Del Harris and, of course, Jackson).  Plus he had to battle his way into the starting lineup (Eddie Jones was a 2 time allstar and 3 time 2nd team defender when Kobe arrived).

T-Mac needed someone around in Orlando to get him to the next level (primarily mentally).  Never happened, and I think that&#039;s why it all fell apart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Swirsky&#8217;s Soldier -</p>
<p>T-Mac didn&#8217;t go to Orlando to be &#8220;The Man&#8221;!  He went to play 2nd banana to the best SF in the League at the time (Grant Hill).  He ended up _becoming_ The Man because there wasn&#8217;t another scoring threat on that team his entire time there.  </p>
<p>Although I agree T-Mac doesn&#8217;t pass the legend test, based on his first 6-7 years in the L, he was on track to become a legend (injuries, bad teammates and bad attitude pushed him way off that track).  If T-Mac had been able to play with a healthy All-Star teammate when he went to Orlando, especially a team-first, heady guy like Grant Hill, his whole career might have been different.  </p>
<p>Nobody points this out when talking about the great early 2000s swingmen, but Kobe elevated himself above other excellent guards like T-Mac, A.I., Vince and others partly because he was learning the league in an environment with some stellar team-first teammates (Horry, Derek Fisher, Bryon Scott) and pretty good coaches (Del Harris and, of course, Jackson).  Plus he had to battle his way into the starting lineup (Eddie Jones was a 2 time allstar and 3 time 2nd team defender when Kobe arrived).</p>
<p>T-Mac needed someone around in Orlando to get him to the next level (primarily mentally).  Never happened, and I think that&#8217;s why it all fell apart.</p>
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		<title>By: Sucks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sucks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 01:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I started watching basketball at the tail-end of the 2006-07 season, so I&#039;ve only witnessed Tracy in his Rockets avatar, Knee-Mac. The first playoff game I watched was Round 1, Game 1 Utah @ Houston. Tracy couldn&#039;t buy a bucket (1 pt at halftime) but he dropped 22 after the break as the Rockets won. Game 7 was devastating--Tracy was phenomenal (29/5/13 P/R/A) but the Rockets lost by four at home. The next year came the incredible win streak and the road blowout of the Jazz, as well as a 40/10/5 in the Game 6 loss w/o Yao. Nevertheless, I can only watch the highlights and salivate. The Orlando edition of Tracy McGrady was absurdly gifted. Pre-injury, his midrange game was beautiful, and we all know about his heroics above the rim. Besides being a top-4 scorer in the Association (the others being Shaq, Kobe and Iverson), McGrady also ranks among the best passing wings to ever play. He wasn&#039;t an elite defender, but he certainly had the tools. Although I&#039;m biased, I&#039;d say the guy gets a bad rap--for all his natural abilities, he&#039;s had some godawful luck. Wrt to his inability to advance in the playoffs, the Rockets have only been favored once (the above-mentioned Jazz series) which went the full seven games and was decided by two possessions. His shot-selection and effort are certainly questionable, but on the whole I regard him as a tragic hero.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I started watching basketball at the tail-end of the 2006-07 season, so I&#8217;ve only witnessed Tracy in his Rockets avatar, Knee-Mac. The first playoff game I watched was Round 1, Game 1 Utah @ Houston. Tracy couldn&#8217;t buy a bucket (1 pt at halftime) but he dropped 22 after the break as the Rockets won. Game 7 was devastating&#8211;Tracy was phenomenal (29/5/13 P/R/A) but the Rockets lost by four at home. The next year came the incredible win streak and the road blowout of the Jazz, as well as a 40/10/5 in the Game 6 loss w/o Yao. Nevertheless, I can only watch the highlights and salivate. The Orlando edition of Tracy McGrady was absurdly gifted. Pre-injury, his midrange game was beautiful, and we all know about his heroics above the rim. Besides being a top-4 scorer in the Association (the others being Shaq, Kobe and Iverson), McGrady also ranks among the best passing wings to ever play. He wasn&#8217;t an elite defender, but he certainly had the tools. Although I&#8217;m biased, I&#8217;d say the guy gets a bad rap&#8211;for all his natural abilities, he&#8217;s had some godawful luck. Wrt to his inability to advance in the playoffs, the Rockets have only been favored once (the above-mentioned Jazz series) which went the full seven games and was decided by two possessions. His shot-selection and effort are certainly questionable, but on the whole I regard him as a tragic hero.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Swirsky&#039;s Soldier couldn&#039;t be more wrong about Pippen.  Pippen won playoff series without Jordan and was a petty foul call away from the Finals the first year MJ left.  Don&#039;t underestimate Pippen, who was a great player statistically and on the court.  Every person who ever played with Pippen attests to how underrated he was.  You could argue that he was the best all-around non-MJ, non-center of the 90&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Swirsky&#8217;s Soldier couldn&#8217;t be more wrong about Pippen.  Pippen won playoff series without Jordan and was a petty foul call away from the Finals the first year MJ left.  Don&#8217;t underestimate Pippen, who was a great player statistically and on the court.  Every person who ever played with Pippen attests to how underrated he was.  You could argue that he was the best all-around non-MJ, non-center of the 90&#8242;s.</p>
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		<title>By: jerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>anybody calling tmac selfish should take a look at the video true hoop published months ago of tmac in darfur sleeping in camps and really trying to bring attention and money to the genocide going in darfur. AMAZING. i know he made mistakes in his career, but his assists went way up when he played for houston. no, he didnt have kobes and jordans desire, but who does, it doesnt mean he was a dog. lot of players have injuries, its just bad luck sometimes, not conditioning. look at grant hill, was he a dog, hell no. hey, if tmac and yao were healthy with artest last year, they probally beat my lakers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anybody calling tmac selfish should take a look at the video true hoop published months ago of tmac in darfur sleeping in camps and really trying to bring attention and money to the genocide going in darfur. AMAZING. i know he made mistakes in his career, but his assists went way up when he played for houston. no, he didnt have kobes and jordans desire, but who does, it doesnt mean he was a dog. lot of players have injuries, its just bad luck sometimes, not conditioning. look at grant hill, was he a dog, hell no. hey, if tmac and yao were healthy with artest last year, they probally beat my lakers</p>
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		<title>By: The Mid-Afternoon Milk Mustache, featuring Tracy McGrady&#8217;s obituary &#124; Stacheketball, an NBA Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Mid-Afternoon Milk Mustache, featuring Tracy McGrady&#8217;s obituary &#124; Stacheketball, an NBA Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Dali: Zach Harper asks us to remember back to the times when Mr. Mac was more than a star in the league. He was legend. [Hardwood Paroxysm] [...]</description>
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