Comments on: Evaluating The Playoff Race At All-Star Break Through Four Factors: Eastern Conference http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/2010/02/16/evaluating-the-playoff-race-at-all-star-break-through-four-factors-eastern-conference/ Unbiased opinions from extremely biased people Thu, 24 May 2012 08:26:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Cdubz http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/2010/02/16/evaluating-the-playoff-race-at-all-star-break-through-four-factors-eastern-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-41728 Cdubz Wed, 17 Feb 2010 21:07:22 +0000 http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/?p=5835#comment-41728 @ FAQ Graphs are only representative of the underlying data, hence not necessarily quantitative @ FAQ
Graphs are only representative of the underlying data, hence not necessarily quantitative

]]> By: L'évaluation de la course aux séries éliminatoires à tous les pause-star grâce à quatre facteurs: la conférence de l'Est http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/2010/02/16/evaluating-the-playoff-race-at-all-star-break-through-four-factors-eastern-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-41699 L'évaluation de la course aux séries éliminatoires à tous les pause-star grâce à quatre facteurs: la conférence de l'Est Wed, 17 Feb 2010 19:40:44 +0000 http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/?p=5835#comment-41699 [...] Nous sommes à la halfwaypoint, et certaines choses que nous savons, et certaines choses que nous pensons savoir. Nous pensons que nous savons à quel point les Cavs, Lakers et les Nuggets sont. Nous savons comment les filets sont mauvais. Nous savons que la course aux séries éliminatoires de l'Ouest, qui entrera probablement jusqu'à la fin. Nous savons que les Hawks ont le nombre Celtics et le Magic avoir le numéro de Hawks, et tout le monde a le numéro de Golden State. Ce que nous ignorons, c'est à quel point les équipes de bonnes séries éliminatoires sont, et si leur dossier est conforme à leur performance. J'ai donc décidé de jeter un oeil. Pour ce petit exercice, je voulais examiner les deux courses éliminatoires en ce qui concerne les quatre facteurs. Le but était de voir si l'ordre dans lequel les équipes se tenait à la All-Star Break était révélateur de la façon dont leur rendement statistique a été dans chacun des facteurs Dean Oliver identifiés comme les plus importantes. J'ai décidé d'utiliser différents sur chaque mesure comme un moyen de dire "Si elles sont un gain supérieur qu'ils perdent, ils devraient alors être dépassé celle de leurs adversaires dans les quatre facteurs via différentiel. "... URL article original: http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/2010/02/16/evaluating-the-playoff-race-at-all-star-break-through-fou... [...] [...] Nous sommes à la halfwaypoint, et certaines choses que nous savons, et certaines choses que nous pensons savoir. Nous pensons que nous savons à quel point les Cavs, Lakers et les Nuggets sont. Nous savons comment les filets sont mauvais. Nous savons que la course aux séries éliminatoires de l'Ouest, qui entrera probablement jusqu'à la fin. Nous savons que les Hawks ont le nombre Celtics et le Magic avoir le numéro de Hawks, et tout le monde a le numéro de Golden State. Ce que nous ignorons, c'est à quel point les équipes de bonnes séries éliminatoires sont, et si leur dossier est conforme à leur performance. J'ai donc décidé de jeter un oeil. Pour ce petit exercice, je voulais examiner les deux courses éliminatoires en ce qui concerne les quatre facteurs. Le but était de voir si l'ordre dans lequel les équipes se tenait à la All-Star Break était révélateur de la façon dont leur rendement statistique a été dans chacun des facteurs Dean Oliver identifiés comme les plus importantes. J'ai décidé d'utiliser différents sur chaque mesure comme un moyen de dire "Si elles sont un gain supérieur qu'ils perdent, ils devraient alors être dépassé celle de leurs adversaires dans les quatre facteurs via différentiel. "… URL article original: http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/2010/02/16/evaluating-the-playoff-race-at-all-star-break-through-fou… [...]

]]> By: Hardwood Paroxysm » Blog Archive » Evaluating The Playoff Race At All-Star Break Through Four Factors: Western Conference http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/2010/02/16/evaluating-the-playoff-race-at-all-star-break-through-four-factors-eastern-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-41627 Hardwood Paroxysm » Blog Archive » Evaluating The Playoff Race At All-Star Break Through Four Factors: Western Conference Wed, 17 Feb 2010 15:10:50 +0000 http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/?p=5835#comment-41627 [...] Click here for the Eastern Conference. [...] [...] Click here for the Eastern Conference. [...]

]]> By: Mauro http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/2010/02/16/evaluating-the-playoff-race-at-all-star-break-through-four-factors-eastern-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-41616 Mauro Wed, 17 Feb 2010 14:35:14 +0000 http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/?p=5835#comment-41616 The major issue I have with this kind of analisys is that they consider the stats from the first game with the same weight as the stat of the last one. The fallacy of that is clear when you think of a team winning all of their first 40 games and losing the last 12 may be because they lost their best player. Examples being Charlotte after they take Jackson.. Great stat, may be , but meaningless. And meaningless analisys. So, instead of looking at the picture, I suggest you look at the trend of the four factor of each team and THEN compare them and make the Bball comments. The major issue I have with this kind of analisys is that they consider the stats from the first game with the same weight as the stat of the last one.
The fallacy of that is clear when you think of a team winning all of their first 40 games and losing the last 12 may be because they lost their best player. Examples being Charlotte after they take Jackson..
Great stat, may be , but meaningless. And meaningless analisys.
So, instead of looking at the picture, I suggest you look at the trend of the four factor of each team and THEN compare them and make the Bball comments.

]]> By: Gameday: Raptors vs Grizzlies – Feb 17 | Slam Dunking http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/2010/02/16/evaluating-the-playoff-race-at-all-star-break-through-four-factors-eastern-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-41601 Gameday: Raptors vs Grizzlies – Feb 17 | Slam Dunking Wed, 17 Feb 2010 13:26:36 +0000 http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/?p=5835#comment-41601 [...] getting comfort by looking at websites, our own Tom Liston spent about six hours of his workday on this page which looks at the Eastern Conference playoff race through the Four [...] [...] getting comfort by looking at websites, our own Tom Liston spent about six hours of his workday on this page which looks at the Eastern Conference playoff race through the Four [...]

]]> By: FAQ http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/2010/02/16/evaluating-the-playoff-race-at-all-star-break-through-four-factors-eastern-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-41455 FAQ Wed, 17 Feb 2010 04:49:44 +0000 http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/?p=5835#comment-41455 Graphs are quantitative .. not qualitative .. Graphs are quantitative .. not qualitative ..

]]> By: Enkidu http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/2010/02/16/evaluating-the-playoff-race-at-all-star-break-through-four-factors-eastern-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-41365 Enkidu Tue, 16 Feb 2010 23:06:40 +0000 http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/?p=5835#comment-41365 While ordering teams by conference rank is easier to look at, the regressions validity would be improved by making your x-axes either win percentage or team +/- per game. Also, these teams' performances are not uncorrelated, since they play against each other frequently. Your next step in testing the usefulness of the four factors (or any of the above stats) could be to include as many years of results as possible to lessen the cross-correlation effects. While ordering teams by conference rank is easier to look at, the regressions validity would be improved by making your x-axes either win percentage or team +/- per game.

Also, these teams’ performances are not uncorrelated, since they play against each other frequently. Your next step in testing the usefulness of the four factors (or any of the above stats) could be to include as many years of results as possible to lessen the cross-correlation effects.

]]> By: dickey simpkins http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/2010/02/16/evaluating-the-playoff-race-at-all-star-break-through-four-factors-eastern-conference/comment-page-1/#comment-41364 dickey simpkins Tue, 16 Feb 2010 23:04:16 +0000 http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/?p=5835#comment-41364 Sweet sassy molassy the Bulls are so pathetic on offense. Is there any correlation between excellent offensive rebounding teams and inefficient offenses? It seems like this is the 6th straight season where the Bulls are an excellent rebounding team, but have a terrible offense. You'd think a team that creates extra possessions would be better than 29th in efficiency. Sweet sassy molassy the Bulls are so pathetic on offense.

Is there any correlation between excellent offensive rebounding teams and inefficient offenses? It seems like this is the 6th straight season where the Bulls are an excellent rebounding team, but have a terrible offense. You’d think a team that creates extra possessions would be better than 29th in efficiency.

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