Comments on: Assisting Darren Collison’s Assists

By: 30-Team Quickie (11/09/2010) – The No-Look Pass

30-Team Quickie (11/09/2010) – The No-Look Pass — Tue, 09 Nov 2010 19:27:47 +0000

[...] so far. Maybe they're not as generous in Indiana (6 so far in 2 home games) when it comes to giving out assists. (PREDICTED ORDER OF FINISH: [...]

By: Not Another Team Preview: Southwest Division | 48 Minutes of Hell

Not Another Team Preview: Southwest Division | 48 Minutes of Hell — Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:43:02 +0000

[...] New Orleans has a storied history when it comes to exciting, cutting edge point guards. Sadly, itâ€™s on the verge of being the team that lost three of them (one who played college ball in their own backyard, no less). Pete Maravich left with the franchise, Baron Davis left when he went Baron Davis, and Chris Paulâ€™s strategy seems to fall somewhere between Carmelo Anthony and LeBron James. The Hornets have two home court advantages that few can replicate: bourbon street and a shameless knack for stretching the definition of an assist. [...]

By: None needs to shut the hell up

None needs to shut the hell up — Thu, 19 Aug 2010 20:52:14 +0000

Seriously None, it’s not “stupid” to check to see if stats are correct and Collison doesn’t just “get” those stats just because that one statistician gave them to him. Checking the validity of this is the RESPECTABLE thing to do, not ignoring them, like you propose.

I’m sure this IS happening everywhere, and that’s great, but it seems to be happening worse in New Orleans.

By: DÃ©bat statistique : Darren Collison n’aurait pas fait 20 passes

DÃ©bat statistique : Darren Collison n’aurait pas fait 20 passes — Tue, 23 Mar 2010 13:08:54 +0000

[...] de trancher sur cette situation, Zach Harper de Hardwood Paroxysm a revu le match dans son intÃ©gralitÃ© et a dÃ©cortiquÃ© chaque action de passe. Au final, il [...]

By: Michael

Michael — Thu, 18 Mar 2010 04:18:34 +0000

It is true that stats are inflated everywhere, but that isn’t the issue necessarily.

It’s the idea that Collison got a record out of it, right?

Hakeem Olajuwon had one of his QUADRUPLE DOUBLES not recognized by the NBA because they didn’t feel that one of his assists was an assist. They did this review AFTER the game.

OF COURSE THE WARRIORS commentator said something about it. He was watching the game! Would another team, who wasn’t even watching, be the one to speculate?

I’m guessing the N.O commentators should have said something? Yeah, right.

It isn’t being a poor sport when your team loses and you talk about an undeserved record. It’s being true to the game, regardless of who you work for.

By: Rondo’s Smart Passing » Boston Celtics Basketball – Celtics news, rumors and analysis – CelticsHub.com

Tue, 16 Mar 2010 19:48:49 +0000

[...] Only two players (Nash and Williams) have assisted on more baskets at the rim. And only two (LeBron James and Nash again) have assisted on more three-pointers. (Note: Paul would almost certainly have more assists leading to threes than Rajon were it not for his knee injury, and that’s only sort of because the Hornets scorekeepers may be inflating assist stats). [...]

By: stupid

stupid — Tue, 16 Mar 2010 11:26:20 +0000

gotta be honest that it is sad to hear announcers such as those for the warrios (i watched this game on the computer online) be so biased in their coverage of games. i don’t care if you are from the city or not, why would u want to listen to a biased commentator? if you’ve ever watched a pistons game ( i know they suck now ) but the announcers would never make a comment like the one the warriors play by play guy made. its classless, immature, and petty. comes across like a sore loser to be honest. i love the warriors they are one of my fav teams but curry’s stats are totally inflated, i watch them cause he’s on my fantasy team and he gets TO’s that don’t go on his stat line and assists as well, it happens on EVERY TEAM. instead of going back on checking on collisons stats cause some old angry announcer said so, go check every game nash played in and every game curry has played in and present a balanced, unbiased article.

By: Alex

Alex — Tue, 16 Mar 2010 02:16:09 +0000

The NBA actually reviews EVERY game afterwards to control that the stats are correct.

You don’t remember last year, when the NBA took away a rebound of LeBron’s when he scored 52 got 11 assist and 10 (then 9) boards in Madison Square Garden?

By: J.D. Hastings

J.D. Hastings — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 04:03:20 +0000

Okay we want accuracy in our stats, but we also want consistency. Stats comparability between eras is already difficult, but if you start applying more rigorous standards now you throw an even bigger wrench into the mix (I hear people lament sometimes that free throws don’t get counted towards an assist, but Magic and Stockton didn’t get credit for those either, so why should Current Player X whose assist numbers we want to see inflated?)

So my question is has the rate of inflation of these stats changed over time? Were Magic’s assists as inflated as Collison’s were?

If so wouldn’t correcting today’s numbers without correcting the earlier numbers be unfair to today’s players?

By: Pookeyguru

Pookeyguru — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:29:49 +0000

A bit late Zach, but I think your point is this: The assist stat is stupid. It is stupid, but there’s a greater problem: How do you fix it?

Worse, what does it say about guys like John stockton, Magic Johnson and others who racked up dimes frequently in this system? Not to mention the current stars in the NBA like CP3 and Deron Williams.

I’m not saying John Stockton isn’t a HOF, or Williams/Paul aren’t All-Stars (or potential Hall inductees), but the assist stat is too often used to justify how valuable that player is. Way too often.

There is not a worse stat in all of sports than the “assist” stat. Not a single one. And it’s been this way for a long time.