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Live From New York: The Official HP Draft Day “Report”

The NBA Draft is a chaotic mess of bodies all roaming around with various agendas. Some guys are about to have their lifelong dreams come true. Others are just punching the clock, serving as handlers and security. Many are in the media, actively seeking out quotes, banging out stories before their deadlines and frantically trying to carve out fresh angles to cover an event that couldn’t be more over-covered.

Then there is me.

Throughout the night, I was mainly the doofus walking around looking for nothing in particular — and finding plenty of it.

Between the handlers escorting the players through velvet-roped pathways like VIP cattle, a less-than-stellar wireless connection and a personal approach to the evening best described as “wandering around til I see something interesting,” it was pretty quickly apparent that I was not going to be breaking any Watergate-level stories tonight.

Still, it’s funny what you do pick up.

Here are a few notables.

  • John Wall started off the backroom press conference night fittingly with a remark in response to being asked how it feels to know that four of his teammates will also get drafted. “Tonight is a night all of us can reach our dream.” He was talking about “all of us” guys from Kentucky. But it certainly applies to everyone who was picked. That’s the highlight of the night. Watching all these guys kids walking around in giant, expensive suits, smiling like it’s the last day of school. Because, you see, for them, it is.
  • Evan Turner has a comical voice. Of the Jim Henson variety. Nice suit though.
  • I managed to stake out a prime little alcove from which to paparazzi stalk Epke Udoh as he walked by en route to the media showcase that all the players endure after they’re picked. See, first comes the stuff you see on TV, with the one-on-one on-air interview for ESPN. Then they are escorted back down a loooong corridor through MSG to the NBA media room. Then they go the general media room. Then it’s off to the Craig Sager one-on-one interview. And then comes the special, double-secret probation photoshoot/interview area in which I was not allowed. But as Epke made his was back down the corridor to begin the behind-the-scenes horse-and-pony show, he was flying compared to other guys I had watched. He was racing like he was late. Like me trying to catch the subway on the way to work every morning. While standing there with a few reporter comrades, I was all “I think they’ll wait for you, man” — to which some MSG security guard responded “he’s not hurrying to get to the media — that’s a guy that’s gotta get to the bathroom.” Now, this guy had no connection to Ekpe whatsoever and thus no inside information into the situation, but I would like to think he was spot on.
  • Paul George went to my Pacers at pick #10, so I followed him around for a while and asked him a question about how he can help bring some consistency to the Pacers perimeter. He gave a typical answer about working hard this summer but added that he “can pretty much do a lot of things on the court” and that he definitely doesn’t “want to come into a…team that’s on the verge of winning and be a slacker.” He also showed some personality after someone asked him whether he feels any pressure to perform since a lot of Hoosiers wanted the Pacers to pick local hero Gordon Hayward. “Yeah, Gordon Hayward is a good friend of mine…” he said, before being interrupted by the reporter, who noted that “…but he was gone.” “Luckily,” said George, sounding like one of the few people on the planet who legitimately wanted to play for the Indiana Pacers. “I definitely want to do good for the fans and I want to pan out to what they want me to be.” Perhaps more importantly, the guy appears to be a very good dresser. Definitely a best-dressed of the night candidate, which was aided by his cool, I’m-really-enjoying-this demeanor. He even looked excited to talk to Craig Sager.
  • While hanging out around the back just chatting with Hardwood Paroxysm legend Holly Mackenzie, John Wall randomly resurfaced amongst us peons, only to be ushered by a few staffers over to a corner where a laptop was set up. He put in some earbuds, sat down in a chair and started talking to someone video-conference style. Turns out it was Big Tigger from BET’s the Basement, who was interviewing Wall for some reason for some outlet. Those of us with cameras and recorders crowded around him like moths to a buglight. He did the John Wall Dance at one point. Video (hopefully) to come.
  • Cole Aldrich’s press conference was pretty comical. He had already reportedly been traded to Oklahoma City but it obviously wasn’t official and he was chilling under the lights answering questions about his future in a New Orleans Hornets hat. “[Monty Williams] is going to be a great coach … It’s going to be another great coach to play for.” Only … he never will. He was later asked about playing alongside Jayhawk brethren Nick Collison in OKC. “Oh yeah. He comes back every once in awhile and we go down and play … So just with him on Oklahoma City — or with Julian [Wright] still on the Hornets, it’s going to be a fun next few years.”

There was probably more. I sort of hunkered down in the press room for the second round. The part where the Knicks took Landry Fields was pretty fun. I’ll go through my notes, FlipCam and photos tomorrow, though, and drop a little more “insider” knowledge for you if anything turns up.

* Epilogue: It’s worth noting that I don’t watch NCAA basketball and have almost no idea who any of these players are.

Profiles in NBA Draft Awesomeness: DeMarcus Cousins Is The Magnetic Field

We’re making this way more complicated than it needs to be.

Honestly. This is not advanced calculus. This is not chemical engineering. This is not the eternal debate of the soul. And yet we find ourselves in a position where DeMarcus Cousins is entering Thursday’s draft as one of the single most divisive figures in the NBA, and he hasn’t even been arrested, nor has he played a single minute. We have invented this cacophony against him, based off of what, him shouting frustration on the floor? Being willing to play dirty? Disrespecting his college coach, who, though I love the man, tends to be a player advocate and not a hardass? This is what we’re calling problematic?

I’ll feel silly if Cousins winds up like so many other players with “character issues.” But then, you know what? You can’t tell. You can’t.

You know why?

Sheed’s why.

In Vegas for Summer League in 2008, Matt Watson and I took a trip to the Cheesecake Factory inside the Shops at Ceasar’s Palace in Vegas. It was a fun little jaunt to see whether or not we’d run into anyone, and yielded little result. But the Sheed story stuck with me. There was an element that was left out.  The bartender told me that Sheed would bring his kids in and they would run around while he ate. Just another dad, taking his kids out. This jives with the rumors that Sheed wanted out of the 2008 All-Star Game because his wife had booked a trip for the family and he didn’t want to catch hell. I can understand that. The point is not whether or not these stories are true. It’s that it would make sense if they were. Sheed gives that vibe. You know what vibe he also gives?

A dude that has to be removed from the officials’ locker room after the Finals because he wanted to chat with the referees. The guy that racks up technicals like they’re power pellets and he’s Pacman. The loose cannon.

There’s depth that we miss with television. Celebrity doesn’t allow you to have any context, any texture, any rhythm to your personality. Don’t get me wrong. When I’m jamming out a 350 word post on ProBasketballTalk.com, I use phrases like “the dynamic point guard” or “the troubled small forward” as much as anyone. You’re basically trying to point out why you are or are not giving someone the benefit of the doubt, based on their past behavior. But Cousins is facing not just qualms about his behavior but his ability to produce on the court. Questions of his athleticism. As if Derrick Favors ability to jump really high even though he’s about as natural with a basketball as a flamingo is with a tricycle is somehow a superior factor. Look, I love the athletic guys. The Patron Saints of Paroxysm are all hyper athletic forwards. But Cousins’ is athletic. You know how he’s athletic? He’s strong as a freaking bull. That’s how he’s athletic. That weird, natural scoring ability that guys have? He’s got it. He doesn’t quit or get lost on defense. And when he’s going off or stomping and snorting like said bull? He’s at least engaged in the game. That’s what you want. You don’t worry about a guy who’s too emotional during a game, you worry about the ones who look bored, despondent, lost.

Cousins is the biggest bully I’ve seen in college basketball in a long time. He quite literally manhandles guys to the basket, then powers it in. He’s confident in his dribble, in his post moves, in his positioning. He understand where the floor is. I know that sound idiotic. Bear with me. You know how many rookies don’t have a sense of the floor dimensions, try and go baseline and wind up on the other side of the line? Many. And it floors me. But Cousins knows where he’s at and is able to finish. None of this “I’m long and athletic! As long as I get it up there, it should be fine!” business. You know what the results in? Those “five tapbacks that don’t fall and a defensive rebound” plays. The ones that make you lose your brain as a fan.

Cousins is not perfect. He’s not a shining example of maturity and poise. But he’s a beast of a forward, able to run, navigate the lane, and when he adds the man-bulk, is going to be like a Brahma spitting bullets.

This isn’t this complicated. Take the best basketball player. Take DeMarcus Cousins.

TrueHoop Network NBA Mock Draft: Chicago Bulls Select Luke Babbitt

#1 — John Wall, Washington Wizards — Truth About It
#2 — Evan Turner, Philadelphia 76ers — Philadunkia
#3 — Derrick Favors, New Jersey Nets
– NetsAreScorching
#4 — Wesley Johnson, Minnesota T’Wolves
— A Wolf Among Wolves
#5 — DeMarcus Cousins, Sacramento Kings – Cowbell Kingdom
#6 — Greg Monroe, Golden State Warriors — Warriors World
#7 — Ekpe Udoh, Detroit Pistons — Piston Powered
#8 — Al-Farouq Aminu, Los Angeles Clippers — Clipper Blog
#9 — Xavier Henry, Utah Jazz — Salt City Hoops
#10 — Paul George, Indiana Pacers — 8 Points, 9 Seconds
#11 — Cole Aldrich, New Orleans Hornets — Hornets 24/7
#12 — Ed Davis, Memphis Grizzlies — 3 Shades of Blue
#13 — Avery Bradley, Toronto Raptors — Raptors Republic
#14 — Patrick Patterson, Houston Rockets — Hardwood Paroxysm
#15 — Gordon Hayward, Milwaukee Bucks — Bucksketball
#16 – Hassan Whiteside, Minnesota TimbeLOLvesWolf Among Wolves

WITH THE 17TH PICK IN THE 2010 TRUEHOOP NETWORK NBA MOCK DRAFT, THE CHICAGO BULLS SELECT LUKE BABBITT, SF/PF, NEVADA!

I know what you’re thinking. “But Matt! They already have Taj Gibson and Luol Deng and James Johnson and their two-guard is currently occupied by a fading defense-minded point guard that can’t shoot! They can’t possibly take Babbitt!”

Au contraire.

What’s the biggest goal for the Bulls this summer? Everyone, all together.

LeBron James. Very good, class.  Their second priority? Chris Bosh. Which means that at some point, they’re going to be involved in a sign and trade, which means that Luol Deng? He’s gone. See ya. Out of here. Someone else’s problem. If they don’t get James, they’re still in good position to get Bosh, or Stoudemire. And that means a sign and trade, and that means a lack of depth at combo-forward. Babbitt gives them a guy who can spell James, work within the offense, has high athleticism, can play either position, can work as a big in a pinch, and spread the floor. He’s an actual, honest to God, three-point shooter.  He’s a smaller, more athletic Brad Miller. And since the Bulls are probably losing Brad Miller, this has to be the pick.

Because if we didn’t have Brad Miller, we’d have to invent him.

(NOTE: NOT ACTUALLY ANYTHING LIKE BRAD MILLER OUTSIDE OF BEING A WHITE THREE POINT SHOOTER. FORGET IT, HE’S ROLLING.)

YOU, SIR, ARE ON THE CLOCK, MR. “LEBRON JAMES SHOULD TOTALLY WANT TO COME PLAY WITH MIKE BEASLEY AND MARIO CHALMERS!”

NBA Lottery: I’m Just Sayin, Keep Your Options Open, Wiz

From a Karmic perspective, there was no better fanbase to root for winning the lottery than the Washington Wizards. Their fans watched as Arenas and Co. teased them with second-round contention, then fell into oblivion. Then they watched as the team came back and said “It’s cool, we’re back!” then once again jumped off the roof. And again. Then they dealt with this season. And really, there hasn’t been a more interesting development of emotion among a fanbase that I’ve seen as the one that evolved in Washington. Arenas was so hammered by the mainstream press that the fans actually rallied around him. Let’s say that again. This fanbase is so screwed up because of their history that they opted to back the dude that brought a gun into the locker room of the building where they all came to see the team play. The guy that commonly released cryptic statements to the press, failed to come back repeatedly from knee injuries, and then when he did, exhibited almost no leadership and had only mediocre play. That’s the guy who ended up with the support out of this trainwreck.

Antawn Jamison? Not a strong enough player and a passive aggressive weakling. Caron Butler? Selfish. Get those bums out of here. I want the 32.00 usage player with the federal gun charges!

I don’t blame them. You react oddly when you watch something you love get blown to smithereens. And Arenas has always been the guy. He’s the one fans attach themselves to. Tuff Juice? A fine sidekick, as long as he’s the sidekick and they’re winning. Jamison? Great teammate, a stellar support guy. But it had to be Zero.  He was the personality, the superstar, and fans are territorial about their superstars.

So you have to feel good for the Wizards fans.

The team? I kind of feel like they didn’t serve the time they deserved. Much like Arenas. It wasn’t their fault. The team construct seemed like a good plan, but it wasn’t. It happens. At the same time, though, when you opt for a course of action in the NBA and it’s a total disaster, there’s typically some period of darkness before you get it together and have another go at it. But instead, the Gods have bestowed the best prospect since Carmelo Anthony (Wade wasn’t considered that high of a prospect at the time, great, but not, you know, DWade). They get a do-over. An immediate second chance.

What’s bizarre is that this is immediately being seen as a second chance for the Gilbert Arenas Wizards.

Which is like bringing Jimmie Hendrix back from the dead and putting him on SmashMouth. Or the Fray.

The wheels are already turning. As Mike Prada outlines in this piece on drafting John Wall, he’s passionate that Wall and Arenas are a perfect fit. Arenas can slide to the 2 just like he did with Larry Hughes in 05, he wants to play off-ball, and all will be well. Kyle’s already bringing the hatchet to my freakout when I discovered Arenas had the eighth highest usage last year.  The sentiment is: keep Arenas! Draft Wall! Wall plus Arenas = DOUBLE SUPER HAPPY WIN!

I’m not sold.

I’m not saying it can’t work. It can. But looking at Synergy for last season? 49.9% of Arenas’ offense came from Isolation and Pick and Roll Ball Handler. Okay, no biggie, he was the point guard. That’s going to happen. But it does tend to fit in with the profile. Arenas wants the ball in his hands, and he’s going to want to score with it. Let’s get past his 40.5% FG percentage on Spot-Up plays, his 18.2% FG percentage on Off-Screen plays, or the moderately disappointing 44.4% on Cut plays (he only had 12 of them after all).  Essentially we’re saying that a player with considerable ego is going to immediately revert to the same player he was five years ago, after two knee surgeries, to be a complimentary player to a rookie.

And let’s be clear, that’s what he is now.

Let’s say Wall fails all expectations. That he’s just not that good. He doesn’t get it, doesn’t make the jump, and doesn’t pan out.  If Arenas is still your primary guy, you’re looking at the same team you expected to have this season, which isn’t good. But Wall’s not going to fail. He’s going to be incredible. His game translates better to the pro game than an prospect I’ve seen since Wade and I had no idea Wade would be that good. He’s a franchise in and of himself. Sticking him on a squad with Arenas is a threat to his potential, could damage his rookie season, provide a bad influence on him, and generally stunt him. He’s your guy now. He’s your second chance.

Prada mentioned that he thinks it’s moot because Arenas simply won’t fetch anything on open market. To which I ask “When have all 30 NBA franchises been smart enough to avoid a bad decision?” And this year more than any other there’s reason to believe teams will take a chance. We have a high-demand, low-supply free agency class, which means someone’s going to get desperate. You have the Grizzlies with Z-Bo giving the impression it’s never too late to change.There’s going to be someone out there willing to give up assets for a “top flight” point guard. Hell, I’d be okay with the Grizzlies doing a sign-and-trade with Rudy Gay for him. I know that sounds insane but at least with Arenas I know he’s really good at one particular thing I can (sort-of) count on. And come on. Z-Bo And Zero? In Memphis? If you’re going to crash, crash spectacularly. But even if it’s not Memphis, it would be someone. And if the best you can get out of it is future picks, that’s fine too.  Build for the future. Be patient. You don’t have to surround Wall with All-Stars right now, in fact, unless it’s a Boston with Rondo situation, I’d argue you shouldn’t. Make an exception for LeBron or a top free agent. But otherwise you’re doing a disservice not only to your franchise’s development of Wall, but to what Wall can be regardless.

That said, it could work. If Gilbert Arenas decides to take a backseat and IF the Wizards can’t get a better offer for complimentary pieces and IF the locker room’s screwed up environment doesn’t completely poison him, then this could work out great. But they should at least keep their options open.

Apparently Grunfeld is keeping all options open, including not drafting Wall at all. And hey, Turner’s a great prospect, been impressed with him since early season, and the comeback-from-breaking-his-back-and-then-killing-everyone thing only boosted that. The risk is that Wall has such a high ceiling this could be one of those things that pains your franchise for years. “We could have had John Wall but we decided to build around Gilbert Arenas who played half a mediocre season after multiple knee surgeries before getting suspended for half a season due to federal gun charges involving bringing a weapon to a locker room and bringing them out in regards to a playful argument with a teammate.” Just say that out loud.

They’re not trading the pick, thank God, since anyone you’d have to get in return is a free agent this summer anyway.  I like keeping your options open, but only between two approaches. Trading Arenas and building around Wall (the surefire, easy, simple approach to franchise rebuilding) or trying to make it work with both of them in the backcourt (makes the fans happiest).

This is a monumental decision, and not an easy one. Two years ago I argued that the Bulls shouldn’t take Rose and should instead take Beasley because they were already set at guard with Kirk Hinrich and Ben Gordon. So it’s not like I haven’t said some remarkably stupid things about situations like this.  But the simplest option, just adding a fantastic player to your best collection of players, is still not always the best move, for your team or for the prospect.

And that’s what a lot of this comes down to. From the first Kentucky game I watched, I was blown away by Wall. I saw him running that college offense with kids that can’t hit open 12 foot baseline jumpers and started freaking out. I started envisioning him with pick and roll (admittedly with Brook Lopez and not Epic Vale) capabilities, with transition systems and good players. His ceiling is so high you need the Hubble. So the idea of him being put in a poisonous situation with a guy I’ve admittedly turned on (but haven’t completely given up on) makes me queasy. I want what’s going to make Wall the best player, which will in turn make the Wizards the best they can. And just going with “add him, no change” seems like a dangerous scenario. It’s not like that roster is chock full of high character guys. You’ve got to put potential in the best situation to succeed. Getting the top pick was a great thing for the Wizards. I’m just concerned that the emotional, confusing situation might not make for the best situation for Wall.

Madness Diagnosis: JaJuan Johnson And The Same Old Conundrum

Athletic big men are usually the most impossible players to predict. How many of you were correct about Tyrus Thomas or LaMarcus Aldridge or Stromile Swift or Kenyon Martin?

When you see a player in college, so many things can influence how you view their performance. Typically, they’re far more bouncy and quick with everything they do. You’ll see them sky high for a rebound that only they can get or tip-dunk a miss that defies what you learned in Physics class. They move like the pterodactyls in Jurassic Park III. They’re graceful and impressive and you can’t figure out why they weren’t around before. And yet, they’re always lacking something that makes you think they should be in the next installment of your basketball viewing.

At the college level, guys like JaJuan should be able to dominate most nights just because they’re more freakish athletically than most of their competition. In Purdue’s 72-64 win over Siena today, JaJuan really only had one big man to worry about – 6’9” Ryan Rossiter. Considering Rossiter was in pseudo-foul trouble, JaJuan was able to work freely inside and just concentrate one what he could control offensively. He showed a lot why he could shoot up the draft boards (picked to go in next year’s second round on Draft Express and ranked 50th in Chad Ford’s rankings) with a strong tournament showing.

Stat Line: 23 points, 15 rebounds, 3 blocks, 2 assists, 1 steal, 4 turnovers, 8/16 FG, 7/11 FT

What He Does Well
He can out-jump just about everybody on the court. He’s a lot like Tyrus Thomas only he seems like a good guy. When he gets the ball around the basket he’s often looking to dunk the ball. He’s pretty active on the boards most of the time (aka when he’s paying attention) and gets nearly every rebound of his off of length and athleticism. He runs the floor well. He’s also a pretty good shot-blocker in the sense that even if he’s not timing the shot correctly, he has the hang time and the frame to still challenge the shot. In many ways, he reminds me of a less patient Marcus Camby without the jumper. Actually, perhaps he’s more Carlos Rogers than Marcus Camby.

What He Does Poorly
This is where the hangups are that make you wonder if he should stay for his senior season to declare for the draft. His hands are terrible. I mean, they’re Johan Petro with oven mitts bad. He had multiple passes bounce off of his hands in the win over Siena. There was a four-minute stretch early on in which his awareness made him look like he was on Quaaludes. He was a little too jumpy with challenging shots and offensively, he didn’t seem to be in sync with what his teammates were doing. His frame is very slight. He’s 6’10” but only about 200 pounds. He can be pushed out of the post easily. I wouldn’t want him having to make many decisions with the basketball and even though he’s not the type of guy you’d have to double-team in the NBA, you’d probably do it just to see if you can force him into a turnover. I also didn’t see much work with his off-hand and I’m not quite sure he can dribble a basketball all that well. He’s probably a stretch at the power forward position in the NBA and more destined to be a small forward without all those pesky wing position skills.

Tweets of Madness
- @8pts9secs @HPbasketball @talkhoops I don’t believe that’s an actual person. “JaJuan”? You’re just screwing with me.

- @LibertyBallers @talkhoops Who’s JaJuan Johnson?

Can He Play in the NBA?
As you can see by the tweets, this guy isn’t a well-known commodity amongst draft picks. He’s a tall drink of potential water without a ton of substance. He dominated a Siena team that didn’t have a big man who could handle his jumping ability or his length. But what happens in the next round against Texas A&M who has bigger and stronger defenders like Loubeau and Davis? His ability to score effectively in the post and keep the A&M guards from getting layups around the basket will be the key to see just how much he matters in a given game. Purdue making past the Sweet Sixteen behind a couple more strong performances by JaJuan will be enough to get people talking about him and putting him not just in the first round this year but near the lottery. I’m not saying that’s where he belongs but that’s how this draft process tends to develop.

This would be a guy in the pros that you can run a play for a couple of times a game that involves a back screen and a lob anywhere to backboard. Assuming he’s paying attention, he’ll go get it and make a highlight. But what about the other plays in the game? Can he learn the game enough and be an attentive enough player to get through 30 professional minutes at a high level?

Madness Diagnosis: Jeff Foote, Here Comes Treble

What’s the old adage?

You can’t teach height?

Well, it’s true. I tried to self-teach myself height for years and I just never got it. I studied like crazy. I took extra classes and always did my homework. But I never was able to score over 6’0” on my height tests. Just couldn’t seem to get it. Luckily, that’s not an issue for Jeff Foote, the center for Cornell University (ever heard of it?).

The thing about Jeff Foote is at first glance there is nothing impressive looking about him other than his height. He’s a legit seven feet tall and he’s got good size at around 260 pounds. He looks a little slow. He has good dexterity but is he quick enough to show something against the bigger, faster, and stronger athletic competition at the next level? He was solid competing against Temple in Friday’s game as Cornell shot their way to a 78-65 victory. As well as Cornell shot the ball, Foote’s inside presence was a good safety valve for them on offense.

And just for fun, the rest of this post I’ll be referring to Jeff Foote as “Big Tuna” in honor of his fellow alumnus, Andy Bernard.

Stat Line: 16 points, 8 rebounds, 3 blocks, 1 assist, 1 steal, 5 turnovers 6/8 FG, 4/6 FT, 0 fouls

What He Does Well
He uses his height to his advantage. Sounds simple and obvious for a 7-footer, right? Well, it’s not always that easy for these guys. A lot of guys pretend to be guards or small forwards. They try to push the limits of post play out to 18 feet and show how versatile their game can be. Foote doesn’t do that. Only he time he plays on the perimeter is to set screens and help facilitate the offense. Big Tuna knows his limitations on offense. He stays in the post, takes his time and gets as big and long as he can when he goes up for a shot.

Big Tuna is pretty balanced and skilled with both hands in the post too. His footwork is good enough to get him to not fall all over himself (see: Sene, Saer). But his real strength in how he scores is by using his tallness and being able to score with either hand. He’s able to absorb contact on one arm and use the other to still put up a good shot attempt to try and get the three-point play. He also possesses a solid defensive base inside. I’d like to see him against a much more athletic post player than what Temple threw at him on Friday but overall, he doesn’t gamble a lot and just stays in the way. That’s sometimes all you need.

What He Does Poorly
Let’s be honest about Big Tuna here; he’s not a very good athlete. He’s very slow and methodical with his footwork in the post, which can get him into trouble against big defenders. Some may look at him and think, “if Aaron Gray and Sean Marks can be in the league, so can Jeff Foote.” But Gray and Marks are a lot more athletic than Foote and you can see it in the way he moves inside. He had decent post moves but they took too long to happen. Once he had completed the move (mainly a lot of drop-steps to the baseline), the defender had already recovered and Foote had to rely on being taller than his man. In the NBA, that will get eaten alive.

Tuna also was pretty sloppy with the ball. His slow footwork sometimes got him into trouble and caused his five turnovers. In the NBA, moves have to be succinct in the post and if not, you’re going to cause your team a lot of problems. The biggest question is would Jeff Foote be able to do some agility training to get faster feet? If he wants to play in the NBA, then he’ll have to.

Tweets of Madness

- @SebastianPruiti @talkhoops he has two left Footes….not real good footwork, but great size and passing ability…

- @gnagesh @talkhoops He could barely walk and chew gum as a freshman. Now he’s a legit NBA prospect. Couple years in the D League might help though.

Can He Play in the NBA?
A 7-foot guy who can score in the post, pass the ball well and defend the rim will always be a guy with potential to play in the NBA. You can work with a guy like Foote because he has a good skill set. Think Spencer Hawes without the outside touch or athleticism. Yikes. Actually, don’t picture that. That’s not pretty for anybody. Ultimately, Foote might not ever be a good enough athlete to play in the NBA despite his size. I can see him trying things out in the D-League if he wants to test the NBA waters and try to make a career of it but the athleticism would still have to improve for him to not be eaten alive there too.

Ultimately, I’m going to say that he probably isn’t an NBA player based on what I’ve seen. My opinion could easily change if Cornell advances through the next round or two and Foote proves himself against bigger competition. We might not be able to learn much more about him against Wisconsin in the next round but if they can get to the Sweet Sixteen, seeing how Foote plays against the athletic monsters in Kentucky Blue will show us just how far along Foote is in his playing career.

One last thing, we don’t really even know if Big Tuna WANTS to play in the NBA. Maybe he’s just one of those tall guys who plays out of necessity. After all, he goes to Cornell and because of it he’ll either do sales in a small paper company or he’ll be the CEO of some company with the chance to embezzle millions of dollars some day. He might not want to take the pay cut of playing professional basketball.

Madness Diagnosis: Jordan Crawford And His Celebrity Dunk Tape

You remember Jordan Crawford, don’t you?

He was the man we all wanted to free back in the summer of 2009. No, he wasn’t being held captive by some foreign government (ala Jack Bauer). His dunk on LeBron James was being kept in the dark because Nike and the King didn’t want it to get leaked out into a frenzied, bloodthirsty internet. Well, eventually it did and Jordan Crawford’s heroic basketball camp deeds became nothing more than a reaction of “well, that really wasn’t a big deal after all.”

Since then, Jordan Crawford has been working on his game, going to classes and getting his Xavier team to the NCAA tournament. But does Jordan Crawford have enough game to get into the NBA? He’s currently ranked in the 90s on many Top 100 Prospects lists. There are only 60 draft selections this draft. So he has some work to do. After watching him help his school get past Minnesota in the first round, let’s see how he shapes up.

Stat Line: 28 points, 6 rebounds, 5 assists, 2 steals, 1 block, 1 turnover, 11/21 FG, 5/11 3FG, 1/2 FT

What He Does Well
Crawford can score the ball and score the ball a lot. He finished this game with 28 points but shot the ball extremely well considering the shots he was taking. He made five threes in the game showing that he can shoot well from outside when he’s in rhythm. He had quite a few catch-and-shoot threes, which looked good coming out of his hands. But his biggest strength is getting to the basket. He’s pretty good getting to the basket despite the fact that he’s not a world-class dribbler. He’s not a bad dribbler by any means but he’s not exactly Chris Paul with the rock either. He’s very quick with his first step and has good explosiveness from his last dribble to exploding to the rim.

As we learned this summer, he can be very athletic around the rim. He forces things a bit too much but he’s pretty good at using his strength around the basket when he gets himself into trouble. That’s not necessarily going to be something he can rely on in the NBA because you’re strong unless you’re Kevin Durant or Shaun Livingston. However, as he moves up the ranks and probably spends some time developing in the D-League, he’ll be able to continue to benefit from his power around the hoop.

What He Does Poorly
Even though he shot the ball well, I’m not crazy about his jumper. He has an odd shooting motion in which it doesn’t look like the same shot everywhere on the floor. I don’t know if he’s just inconsistent in his motion or if he shoots it differently from different spots on the floor because of adjusting to distance. Usually that’s something you lose around the age of 14 years old but he still seems to have it. Then again, maybe I was just seeing things. His defense was also a little suspect. He has a good base and can probably be turned into a solid defender at the next level because that will be the way he gets on the court. But he didn’t seem to show a ton of effort against Lawrence Westbrook of Minnesota.

Another thing he does poorly is height. He’s maybe 6’4” and that’s not exactly good size for an NBA shooting guard. Even as athletic as he is, being 6’4” doesn’t give you a lot of wiggle room for error at the next level. He’s not the same level of scorer like a Marcus Thornton type of NBA guard but that might be the best comparison to make. He’s not a good enough playmaker or ball-handler to run the point in the pros so you can’t really consider him as a combo guard. However, his athleticism does give him the upper hand on the guys he’ll be competing against during draft workouts.

Tweets of Madness

- @imsohideous @talkhoops Jordan Crawford was rather champish today. Showed some real gangsta magistration in that win over Crocket and Tubbs squad.

- @adamosgp @talkhoops #NCAA #MarchMadness Jordan Crawford makes wearing #55 look cool again, despite Jahidi White’s and Andrew DeClerq’s efforts.

- @NBAMVP Jordan Crawford is fancy. When I first saw him play I thought he was showing off, but no it’s real athleticism. @talkhoops

Can He Play in the NBA?
I actually think Crawford can be an NBA player. He probably wouldn’t be more than just a 11th or 12th man but he does seem to have something extra to his game that makes him standout above the rest. He’s definitely a player that needs more polish and more control in what he does. He can dribble a bit too much and not be succinct in his movements. The D-League would be a perfect place for him to go early on to make a name for himself and eventually be thrust into the rotation with the Golden State Warriors (because that’s the transitional conduit between the D-League and the actual NBA).

I’d be shocked if Jordan Crawford gets drafted (assuming he doesn’t dominate in the pre-draft workouts) but I’d also be shocked if he’s not in the NBA within three years of working hard in the NBDL.

Consider Jordan Crawford HP approved by me. Look out below, LBJ.


The Harris-Wall Conundrum: NBA Trade Mechanics Through A Formulaic Approach

Once it became apparent that the New Jersey Nets were the single worst team in the National Basketball Association and that John Wall was going to be the number one overall pick by light years, the questions immediately began.

If they do land the overall pick, do they trade Devin Harris?

When Harris hasn’t been in a suit due to injury this season, he has watched his performance plummet on the worst team in the league. Points, PER, assists, rebounds, all have dropped dramatically. Given the fact that Wall is considered by many (including people who aren’t completely delusional like myself) to be one of the best picks of the last decade, even with only a 25% chance of actually winning the lottery, the seeds for moving up a Harris-move timetable were planted.

That line of thinking started evolving once it became apparent that the Nets were broken beyond repair and it was worth considering a complete blowup.

It’s a minefield. Trade him too early and you risk ending up without a point guard next year. Ask the Sixers how that’s working out. Even if they were able to get back some reasonable talent for Harris, that could potentially complicate their summer free agent plans. Then again, waiting till after the lottery could result in Harris’ value dropping between now and then. Keeping the two of them is simply too tricky of  a situation, not to mention like hoarding beef jerky in the desert instead of trying to find water.

The complex nature of the problem has created conflicting reports, with the latest outlining a full recline from aggressive trade talks, if there was ever considerable intensity in the first place.

But exactly how do you figure this kind of a question out? What are the parameters that need to be considered and ignored? How can we approach this in a more subjective manner? My first thought was to attack the question using a game theory model. After all, a trade by necessity involves interaction with competition in a marketplace, revolving around a primary decision. But I needed help. A lot of help.

With a big ol’ hat tip to Henry Abbott, I contacted Brian Tung of the advanced theoretics blog The Null Hypodermic and asked him for help with a conceptual model. I gave him the following elements to consider.

  • The Nets will undoubtedly finish with the worst record in the league, giving them a 25% chance at winning the lottery. John Hollinger’s adjusted probabilities actually put it at 25.5%.
  • Wall’s value is more than just being widely considered not only the best prospect in the draft, but according to many (including myself) the best prospect to come out of college since Dwyane Wade.
  • Harris has shown a significant downturn in production this season.
  • Trading Harris lowers the Nets’ payroll, assuming they trade for assets of lesser or expiring value, which is a premium for them.
  • At the same time, trading Harris costs them a valuable young veteran point guard, which could be an incentive for free agent prospects this summer, their ultimate goal.
  • There are no other outstanding point guards in the upcoming draft, which would make losing out on the #1 and falling to 2-4 disastrous without Harris.

Having provided Brian with the basic elements with which to construct an outline, here’s his response:

From the outset it must be acknowledged that any model will leave out all kinds of things.  It is best therefore to be clear about what we’re leaving out, so that they can be addressed outside the model.  Also, I’m writing as I think (and vice versa), so this may only be half-baked.  I’d have to give it some more thought to bake it outright.

One difficulty in modelling most of these kinds of decisions is determining how to value basketball assets.  Advanced statistics like PER and APM have improved matters somewhat, but as the dispute over them demonstrates, we still have a long way to go.  But a more significant difficulty is determining how to compare basketball assets to fiscal assets.  Since the Nets are probably going to get the first pick with a 1/4 probability whether or not they trade Harris, this decision simply cannot be made on the basis of basketball assets alone.  Fiscal assets must be taken into account, and they must somehow be valued on the same terms as basketball assets.  I’m going to assume without evidence–either for or against–that the Nets are able to do this.

I’m also going to assume for the time being that the Nets will not get Wall unless they get first pick.  I’m not sure how valid that assumption is; Minnesota could easily get the first pick and it’s not clear to me that they would pick Wall, or that if they did pick Wall it would be with the intention of keeping him.  Of course, if they did pick him to trade him, they might want to trade him for Harris, so if the Nets have already traded Harris away at that point, it might conceivably diminish their chances of getting Wall via the trade.  But for now I’ll assume that’s not a viable avenue anyway.

If that’s the case, we’re not really talking about game theory because the Nets are not competing against anyone other than themselves (irony duly noted).  There are four possibilities:

  1. Trade Harris, then fail to pick up Wall in the draft. The Nets gain some fiscal assets (call it F), but lose significant basketball assets (call it H).
  2. Trade Harris, then pick up Wall in the draft. The Nets gain fiscal assets F (might be a little less, depending on how closely we’re modelling fiscal effects), and basketball assets are about a push (you gain WH).
  3. Keep Harris, then fail to pick up Wall in the draft.  Fiscal assets and basketball assets largely unaffected.
  4. Keep Harris, then pick up Wall in the draft. Fiscal assets mostly unaffected (again, like 2, might be a little reduced), but gain basketball assets along the lines of (H, W) – H.  This mumbo-jumbo basically means that having both Harris and Wall is worth more, basketball-wise, than Harris alone, and the difference between them is what you gain.  Because they can’t play point at the same time–not in the usual sense, anyway–this difference will, however, be less than Wall’s worth on his own.

So, if you trade Harris, you gain fiscal assets F and “gain” basketball assets worth W/4 – H; we divide W by 4 because there’s only a 1/4 chance of picking up Wall, but you always lose Harris’s worth if you trade him.  If you keep Harris, your fiscal assets remain basically unchanged, but you gain basketball assets worth [(H, W) - H]/4.  If you can somehow place F, H, and W all on the same scale (i.e., compare fiscal assets to basketball assets), you can then compare your gains from the two options:

F + W/4 – H vs  [(H, W) - H]/4

Do a little algebra and you can convert that into

F vs  [(H, W) - W]/4 + 3H/4

Let’s keep things straight now: the left side is the “trade Harris” side, and the right side is the “keep Harris” side.  Now, just as adding Wall to Harris gains you less than Wall’s worth on his own, adding Harris to Wall would also gain you less than Harris’s worth on his own.  We can represent that as

F vs  (H – a medium-sized bit)/4 + 3H/4

or just

F vs  H – a little bit

The “medium-sized bit” basically represents the cost of having only one basketball to share amongst the two, in case both Harris and Wall are on the team; the “little bit” is just one-fourth of that cost.  What does this tell us?  It tells us that if you feel that you can in a sense break even on a Harris trade (i.e., gain fiscal assets equivalent to Harris’s basketball worth), you go ahead and pull that trade.  This may seem a little odd because it’s (to first order) independent of Wall’s basketball worth.  There are a few counterpoints to that observation:

  • Harris’s basketball value includes, as Matt says, his ability to attract free agents in the summer, in addition to whatever value he brings strictly on the court.
  • The “little bit” depends on how good Wall is.  If he’s a draft dud (unlikely, but it could happen), it’s essentially zero.
  • On the other hand, if he’s amazing, as in a significant upgrade from Harris out of the box, then that little bit in the final comparison could be one-fourth of Harris’s worth–possibly including Harris’s ability to draw free agents, if Wall is so good that free agents would want to play with him, too.  Of course, we wouldn’t really see Wall’s performance until after this summer’s free-agent bonanza.  (Frankly, I’m not sure it’s going to be that much of a bonanza, but we’ll see.)

If the last point is true–if you are certain Wall is that amazing–then you pull that trade if the fiscal assets you gain are worth even three-fourths of Harris’s basketball value.

I must emphasize that this cold-blooded analysis leaves out factors that may be of great importance.  For instance, I’ve assumed that the cost of losing Harris is limited to on-the-court value.  In a sense, that is true, but it discounts the psychological cost of being a historically terrible team, and the fiscal cost of diminishing gate receipts.  You could probably account for the latter, but the former is something you sort of have to feel with your gut.  Also, I’m not convinced that Harris’s downturn at this stage of his career is much more than a blip.  He could get better next year, easily.  Then, too, it might be a result of playing on a crappy team; for a ball-handler, that’s sort of a minus, statistically speaking.  If he stays with the Nets and draws some free agents, his own performance could improve as a result.  On the other hand, Wall represents youth.  If by some chance the Nets could surround him with some established talent, they could be playoff contenders at some level for years to come.  There are probably quite a few other factors that I’m not thinking of at the moment.  Probably you can come up with more.

As I said, not wholly baked.  Hope this gives you some idea of the kind of analysis that could be done, though.  A more thorough analysis would be much more time-consuming, of course.

Here’s a graphic representation of our decision choices modeled:

While obviously a base of a soup and not what you’d ladle up for paying customers, Tung’s analysis does give us a reasonably stout set of elements to consider. First and foremost is the effect of the unstable probability of Wall in the current atmosphere has in simplifying the Harris trade value to a monetary one. Given the possibility of Wall on the horizon, even at the relatively low chance they currently have, if they find the right economic model to offset Harris’ value, it would make sense under this structure.

While Harris is undoubtedly an asset not to be traded brazenly, there is some support for this kind of an approach. Jettisoning Harris provides even more freedom for what is already one of the most unburdened teams in the league come July, provided they can avoid taking on long contracts in return. And the value of Wall, determined by New Jersey’s scouts and management, is off-set by the Lottery and the devastating effect a premature trade would have on the franchise if it were to miss out on Wall.

There’s more to this question than simply “How desperate are you?” and hopefully in the weeks to come, we can shed more light on it.

Thanks to Brian Tung for his help with this post, as well as Henry Abbott for lighting the way.

Amateur Hour

Because only one national champion fits the description: the 2003 Syracuse Orange featuring Carmelo Anthony, Hakim Warrick and a bunch of non-pros. Beyond that, every single national champion from the past 40 years had at least three players who went on to be a first-round pick, second-round pick or an NBA player in general.

So what does this mean?

Well, for starters it means that — surprise, surprise — I was right again, just like always. But what it also means is that a college coach who looks at his roster and doesn’t see at least three NBA-caliber prospects has virtually no chance of winning a national championship. Sure, you can still be good, maybe win your league and even go to a Final Four if everything breaks perfectly. But history suggests you’re not going to win it all without three NBA-caliber prospects, and this is why coaches spend basically every day of the contact periods on the road killing themselves securing commitments from elite-level prospects.

via Here’s proof that it takes pros to win it all – CBSSports.com.

An interesting column that verifies my belief that NBA talent is the most important thing in college basketball, except it doesn’t.

Let me explain.

In 2007, a friend and I were locked in mortal verbal kombat over the coming NCAA championship game. My belief was that Calipari’s Memphis Tigers featured the most NBA talent, and therefore, would crush Bill Self’s homely little roster of kU “good ol’ fashioned college players.” My friend believed that in college, heart, “fundamentals,” and classic college strategy would win the day.

One Mario Chalmers three pointer later (and the last one you could count on him to hit), and kU walks off with another championship.

So what does the excellent Parrish column tell us? That you need some talent, honed into classic college shape by good coaching. That the rest of the talent on your team won’t be good enough to sustain NBA-type play. Carmelo is of course the outlier, which is fitting because he’s the best college prospect to come out over the last bajillion years besides Wade, and Wade played for Marquette, for God’s sake. Travis Diener has a job playing ball right now specifically because Dwyane Wade played at Marquette.

How is this relevant? John Wall and Kentucky have the most NBA talent and are honestly, the most talented team in the country. But Wall still depends on players making NBA shots like baseline 12 foot jumpers. Which they can’t. Because they’re college players. And so likely Sherron Collins will lift the trophy once more before being drafted late in the first round and fading into nothingness. NBA talent matters the most in college basketball, it’s just not all that matters.

Evan Turner Is One Tough Son Of A

When Turner went down with two fractured vertebrae in mid-December, the talk was that he’d miss a couple of months before returning to Buckeyes. Four weeks later Turner was back on the court, claiming to be about 70 percent. His first outing against Indiana was so-so. He got into foul trouble, played about 20 minutes, and ended with 8 points, 4 rebounds and 5 assists — not bad for a guy coming back four weeks early from a broken back.

But it was in his second game back, against Minnesota, where Turner really showed he was back to his old self. That stat line was typical Turner — 19 points, 8 rebounds, 7 assists, 4 steals, 4 turnovers. But the numbers don’t tell the whole story. Turner was moving well, diving on the floor for loose balls and taking over in the second half. Yes, he still looks a little stiff and not quite as explosive as he did before the injury — but we’re quibbling. For someone who suffered a serious injury just a few weeks ago, he looked great.

More tests are on the way for Turner. He plays Purdue on ESPN tonight. He plays a tough Wisconsin team this weekend and then has a big matchup with West Virginia on the 23rd. If he excels in those games, he has the chance to move back up into the top 3 on our Big Board. As it stands right now, we’ve moved Turner back up to the No. 5 position on our Top 100.

However, one GM told me he’s still being cautious. “I love him, but I loved DeJuan Blair too,” he said. “I’m going to want my medical staff to see those MRIs before I’m sold on him as a top-five pick.”

via NBA Draft Blog – ESPN.

He fractured two vertebrae.

Broke his back.

Just so we’re clear on this, this means in a roundabout way, Turner is tougher than Batman. He came back a month early after having his back broken and flirted with a triple-double.

Are you serious?

I totally understand the injury concerns, but this isn’t a recurring issue, nor is it evidence of a flaw in his genetic makeup. You want to talk freak injuries, this is a freak injury. Turner should be the first small guard taken off the board, and if he keeps playing at the level he’s at, that’s exactly what will happen.

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Kid’s got alligator blood, that’s for damn sure.

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