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Trade Deadline: Andrew Bogut, The Warriors, And Risk

According to team sources, the Warriors are preparing to make a play for Milwaukee’s center. He’s high on their list, but one source didn’t sound too optimistic.

First off, Bogut is hurt.  Thanks to an injured left ankle, he could be done for the season. Ideally, the Warriors would like to trade for someone who can help  now.

Also, Bogut’s price is high. 

via Inside the Warriors: Warriors Have Their Eyes on Bogut

A common theme in reports of rumored trade deals is the overwhelmingly arduous, difficult work that a significant NBA trade requires to reach completion. Aligning money and player additions to a trade in such a way that is both pleasing and possible for two or more teams is a considerable task, one that often necessitates revisited details upon revisited details. Because of the wide variety of variables in play and the reluctance of many GMs to take on significant risk, most discussed trades never reach the final stage of actual completion.

Upon first glance, this trade appears to fall in line with others that never reached completion. The Warriors desperately need a center like Andrew Bogut. Bogut isn’t the player he once was, but he remains one of the best defensive centers in the league, and capable of strong offensive production, though no longer with regularity. Though Ekpe “Plus-Minus Superstar” Udoh has acquitted himself well defensively for the Warriors, he’s undersized and often a liability on offense. The Warriors need a transforming center, one that can fully change the game on defense and who matches up well with offensively-focused power forward David Lee. If he’s healthy, Bogut could easily be that player, a player who shifts the Warriors from perennial mediocrity to something more hopeful, something mired in playoff contention.

But with so many moving pieces, things are always more complicated than an immediate solution.

But even if the Warriors come up with a package the Bucks might like – for instance Andris Biedrins, Kwame Brown’s expiring, Dorell Wright and Ekpe Udoh — Golden State would have to take back on of two players they really don’t want.

Stephen Jackson or Drew Gooden.

When “Stephen Jackson or Drew Gooden” becomes a necessary concession, things become infinitely more complicated.

But maybe the Warriors would, and should, be willing to accept the 3-year, $20 million cap-draining deal of Gooden. If the Warriors give up Udoh and Biedrins in the deal, as Thompson suggests in his post, the team will be left with one less power forward or center in the rotation. Gooden has served as a decent rotational player for the Bucks this season, but his all-too-frequent stretches of odd ineffectiveness and inefficiency make his sizable contract appear as a timid albatross. Still, the Warriors could do worse than adding a player like Gooden to act as the team’s third or fourth big.

Is the possible price of one intermediately bad contract and the lurking threat of continued injury to Bogut enough to keep the Warriors from finally adding a significant interior defensive presence? In the realm of necessary change and the coalescence of players that meld well together, as Lee and Bogut likely would (and as Monta Ellis and Stephen Curry unfortunately do not), it isn’t an overly high duty to pay, especially for the sum of transformative defense. But it involves tangible risk and sizable change, something the Warriors’ franchise has often shied from in years past.

Faced with an opportunity to break free from an unsuccessful trend, the Warriors must either choose the path of Andrew Bogut and the unknown, or the understood path of waiting and hoping for a preferable, safer opportunity. Risk duels with stagnation within the confines of a franchise, and the NBA wheels continue to turn.

Post-Trade Deadline Performance by the Numbers

Wyn Douglas peaks in HP writing right around the deadline. But the rest of the year he writes for and manages Timberwolves blog Canis Hoopus and curates his personal site, complete with NBA Player Movement Flow Charts. Cut him some slack, the Wolves have been rebuilding for about 5 years and it’s tough to ensure you’re criticizing the right person for the wrong move.

When approaching the NBA trade deadline, there are 3 primary approaches for franchises to take:

  1. Get busy livin’. These are your Dallas and Cleveland types. While both have already made big splashes this year, both are also regulars in the deadline blockbuster scene. Those that get busy livin’ are the teams looking to add firepower for a championship run, rarely sparing an expense. Cap space? Draft picks? A contender craves not these things.
  2. Get busy dyin’. These are your Washington (at least this year) and Memphis (at least in 2008) types. As you can infer, they are the opposite of the first group. These are the losers smart enough to know that the guys they’ve banked on for the last few years ain’t gonna cut it and if they hold any value for the franchise, it’s as currency. The team will reluctantly hand over their above-average players, in talent and age, in order to clear money and time for the youngsters they have and hope to acquire. It’s not pretty, but in a league of guaranteed money, it’s often the best course of action.
  3. Don’t get busy. While passing on significant deadline activity is one approach, there’s more than one type of team that chooses it.
    • There are those who are just as happy to facilitate another team’s transaction as they are to do nothing at all. Let’s call these the Oklahoma Cities.
    • Then there are the franchises who think swapping Von Wafer for Taurean Green is worth the time it takes to file papers with the League office. A number of different teams are up to this each year, so I won’t single anyone out by sarcastically branding them.
    • The final group, however, are the true sad sacks that think it’s best to let a mediocre core that’s gotten you 1st round playoff exits for the last few years ride. Let’s call them the Old Washingtons.

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TRADE DEADLINE: Where Donnie Walsh Being Possessed By Isiah Thomas Happens

The Houston Rockets, Sacramento Kings and New York Knicks have agreed to terms that will expand the Houston-Sacramento deal into a three-way trade that lands Tracy McGrady with the Knicks, according to NBA front-office sources.

The Knicks will acquire McGrady and Sergio Rodriguez from Sacramento, sources said.

The Rockets get Kevin Martin, Jordan Hill and Jared Jeffries from New York and will have the right to swap first-round picks with New York in 2011 as well as take on New York’s 2012 first-round pick.

Sacramento obtains Houston’s Carl Landry and Joey Dorsey and New York’s Larry Hughes.

via Tracy McGrady traded to New York Knicks in 3-team deal, sources say – ESPN.

Let’s just be clear in what just happened here.

The Knicks gave up:

  • Jared Jeffries, a versatile defender that’s actually played really well this year.
  • Jordan Hill, who has developed really well, has killer upside, and is a legit scoring big, which they’re going to need once Harrington and Lee are gone in six months.
  • The expiring corpse of Larry Hughes
  • Their control for their first round pick in 2011 NOT to be swapped to a perennial playoff team that just acquired cap space and Kevin Martin.
  • Their 2012 first round pick, meaning they could not be picking in the top 15 for the next 3 YEARS.

And in return, they got:

  • An over-30 forward who has had injury problems every year for the past five years, and his expiring contract which will end up saving them a grand total of $9 million dollars.

THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU!

Seriously? This just happened?

What on EARTH are they going to offer LeBron/Wade/Bosh/Amar’e this summer? “Hey, come on by! You get to play with Sergio Rodriguez! Eddie House is in the corner, smokin’ a pipe! Chill out! Galinari’s going to make his famous pesto chicken!”

THIS is the master plan? To leverage any hope of the future to try and buy your way out of purgatory? This isn’t Mario Bros. You can’t just skip a level, I don’t care how much money you have or what market you play in.

This is an abject disaster.

The Kings’ side of this gets better and better. They just cleared out enough space to build a new kitchen downstairs AND remodel Chrissy’s room with that walk-in closet she’s always wanted. They managed to hold on to Kenny Thomas (woof), so they save that money and pick up Hughes’ expiring as well. And they get Carl Landry, who’s going to annihilated people on the pick and roll with Evans.  Having Hughes around for six months is a shame, but what else is new? And he wasn’t playing badly in New York for the first few months.

Daryl Morey runs the game. That’s it. I’m having T-shirts printed that say “Daryl Morey Runs The Game.” He just spun the guy who he told to go hang out in Chicago instead of playing for Jordan Hill, Kevin Martin and two first round pick advantages. This is sick. This is a disgusting trade for the Rockets. They get Hill to develop like they did Landry, they get Kevin Martin to pair with Brooks and Ariza, they get youth in the future and they still have Yao Ming and saved money. Seriously. I’m pretty sure Morey is an alien with advanced technology. This is absurd.

Okay, I’m going to go lie down and try and figure all this out.


WHAT DO YOU MEAN TYRUS THOMAS IS A BOBCAT?!

/passes out

TRADE DEADLINE: The Night The Whole Damn World Went Mad

(DEEP BREATH FOR AIR)

Okay.

Gah, where to start. Uh…

(SLAMS COFFEE)

(SLAMS REDBULL)

Okay.

Uh…CLEVELAND!

TRADE BREAKDOWNS AFTER THE JUMP.

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It’s Like A Swap Meet With Vendors And No Swappers

The Rockets are in discussions with several clubs about McGrady, and sources say two of the teams near the top of their wish list are Washington and Chicago.

Nothing is imminent with either team, but there are potential deals with both clubs that Houston would be interested in pulling off.

Washington, which league executives believe is in cost-cutting mode after the Gilbert Arenas disaster, could have McGrady for a deal featuring Caron Butler and some expiring contracts, perhaps Mike Miller and Randy Foye.

via Caron Butler on Rockets’ wish list – TrueHoop Blog – ESPN.

Tons of stuff in this rumors piece from Broussard, so let’s take a gander at a few.

I loathe the idea of Mike Miller on the Rockets, seems like an abject disaster waiting to happen. Landing Caron, though, would be quite a coup. Foye would have no spot in the rotation. Brooks and Lowry have been playing too well, and the addition of Butler locks up the 2-3 spot with Ariza for the rest of the season. It makes me a little nervous with Butler kind of being the good mirror image of Ariza’s bad side, but to counter that is the length it would provide. The Rockets have size problems without Yao, but would be able to counter by having their 2-4 spots loaded with hyper-long defenders. Letting Ariza play limited minutes to focus on efficiency would be a big help, and putting Butler at 3 for spots to work out of the high post with Scola would be versatile as all get out.

What else we got?

Talks between the two teams have taken place but they have not reached the serious stage. Philadelphia hinted at a package of Iguodala and Samuel Dalembert for McGrady. But while Houston loves Iguodala’s talent, it’s not sure such a deal would make it a legitimate championship contender. To take back the four years, $57 million remaining on Iguodala’s contract after this season, Houston has to be convinced it would become an immediate title contender once Yao Ming returns next season.

Click through above to read more about this potential deal, but this sounds more plausible than you’d think. Dalembert gives them a real-live center and has been playing better ball this year than I’ve ever seen from him. Iguodala gives them a better scorer than Butler and would take a great big load off of Ariza. Meanwhile…

“IVERSON! MCGRADY! BRAND! IT’S THE 2004 NBA ALL-STAR GAME!”

I still can’t see Morey taking on that kind of dough for Iguodala, though, not with all the scratch he’ll have over the next two years to land a top flight superstar.

Next?

Sources say the Raptors will not consider moving Bosh before next month’s trade deadline unless Bosh tells them he definitely will not return to Toronto next season.

Toronto’s Plan A has always been to re-sign Bosh. However, in considering all possibilities, the club has had internal discussions about Plans B and C, which would include trying to get as good a big man as possible for Bosh (if re-signing him was out of the question).

I never understand why certain franchises can’t see the writing on the wall. It’s one thing like with Boozer. You really didn’t anticipate him being a snake like he was. But this is pretty obvious. Someone in the Raptors organization needs to make a highlight reel just of all the Bosh faces we’ve seen the last two seasons. I feel terrible, because they’re about to get completely dozered, and they really don’t see it coming. I’m sure Bosh says he’ll want to re-sign. That’s what you have to say. That’s how it works. It plays to your advantage. You don’t want fans turning on you. And I really don’t think it’s out of the question, nor do I think it’s a market thing. If this team was the 2 seed right now? Bosh would be saying “Let’s get started on an extension.” But they’re not. They lost to the Pacers last night, and this in the middle of a good run. Save yourselves, Toronto. Save yourselves.

Finally click through for some Boozer stuff, where Utah is really wanting to commit to Carlos Boozer long-term. Because they hate their fans.